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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fur Elise on the Broadwood]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Für Elise&quot; was written between 1808 and 1822 according to the Wikipedia entry.</p><p>At around 1810 the newest and largest grand pianos alreay had a range from F1 to F7.<br />The highest note in &quot;Elise&quot; ist E7, so Beethoven might had in mind the best instruments of his time.</p><p>There is a great book from piano &amp; harpsichord collector Andreas Beurmann,<br />German title &quot;Das Buch vom Klavier&quot;, which lists for example a beautiful grand piano from Jacob Bertsche, Vienna from 1813<br />with that range from F1 to F7.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Arkanda]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fur Elise on the Broadwood]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>DeLange21 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi,</p><p>When I play Fur Elise on the Breadwood I&#039;m missing the notes in the high end. How did Beethoven play it then?</p></blockquote></div><br /><p><em>Für Elise</em> was not published until some 40 years after Beethoven&#039;s death, and the original manuscript has not survived.&nbsp; </p><p>I believe the notes you are citing that were unplayable on Beethoven&#039;s Broadwood involved the run of A-minor arpeggios in the section just before the final return to the main theme: the A Minor arpeggios extend almost an octave higher than the pianos of the day.&nbsp; &nbsp;Without the original manuscript to verify, it is only speculation that a few extra measures were inserted by the publisher, to extend those arpeggios upward to what is normally the highest E note on a modern piano.</p><p>Short answer to your question, &#039;How did Beethoven play it then?&#039; -- He didn&#039;t.</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Joe</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jcfelice88keys]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-12-24T16:39:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Fur Elise on the Broadwood]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p><p>When I play Fur Elise on the Breadwood I&#039;m missing the notes in the high end. How did Beethoven play it then?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[DeLange21]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-12-24T15:57:36Z</updated>
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