Greg.

As in pianissimo?

Glenn

if they base the new version on the same samples as the original version.

FWIW, I saw a presentation video clip on Ivory II and the presenter said that there are more soft layers. Whether they actually took more samples, or just created them by processing existing samples, I am not sure.

Greg.

Take a moment to reflect on the Gulf of Mexico situation - it's essentially a problem of technology gone bad.  Yes, humans are the immediate cause, but without the technology, there wouldn't have been the problem.

Alternatively, they could've spilt the oil off the coast of somewhere like Nigeria, where incidents of this magnitude happen every couple of years. Apparently 'poor black African country with not much media attention' = no problem either!

And of course I will take a deep listen to a new Ivory II, maybe I'm wrong and it will be the piano cracker. I fear not. I'm waiting for that event to happen for 20 years, but the only piano cracker was the guy who played it. Me (read it as- I!)

cheers, Heinke!

As a (still) practicing engineer, I apply science and technology in my work.  I have a friend that thinks technology will enable humanity to overcome problems like energy and food shortages.  My reply to him is that technology is causing the problems, so don't expect technology to provide solutions.  Take a moment to reflect on the Gulf of Mexico situation - it's essentially a problem of technology gone bad.  Yes, humans are the immediate cause, but without the technology, there wouldn't have been the problem.

Glenn

Unquestionably, there are some good things about Ivory. But...

After purchasing it, I REALLY tried to enjoy Ivory in spite of tonal inconsistencies from sample to sample in some registers of the Steinway D and Yamaha C7 that weren't obvious from their online demos. Finally, it got so distracting, that I stopped using Ivory altogether. IMO there are some samples that should never have passed a quality inspection, or at the very least, should have been corrected and improved as time went on. As far as I know, that's never happened since Ivory was first released several years ago. And I somehow doubt it'll happen now.

So for anyone who's a discriminating player, I'd strongly suggest finding some way to try out Ivory II before purchasing it.

OK, I'm keeping this one alive.

There is an interesting thread at PW about Ivory II - as to when it will be available.

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre...ost1454033

Thanks for the entertainment, Glenn!  ROFLMAO, too!!!

(ANOTHER delay???   Sounds like they really had no idea where they were going when they undertook this "upgrade."  I guess that the dollars danced in front of the sense. )

There is an interesting thread at PW about Ivory II - as to when it will be available.

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre...ost1454033

My last post there hi-lights one of the problems - multiple values of damper pedal control.

While many of you have keyboards that generate ON/OFF values or perhaps even half-pedal values (64), many Roland keyboards generate the full range of 128 values (zero to 127).  There may be other makes that do, but I'm not aware of them.

In any event, Pianoteq does not stumble at all with the MIDI files generated by my Roland, so for me, there is no competition to PT.

Glenn

No! Thread necromancy is the best thing ever!

Thread necromancy? Cool

Perhaps Modartt could close an old topic after say, a year?

No! Thread necromancy is the best thing ever!

No offense intended, but my suggestion is to bury the dang thing and start a new thread. Perhaps Modartt could close an old topic after say, a year?

I think there might be a "killer synth" in the works somewhere that will at some point swamp pianoteq's niche.
A general purpose synth, not tied to "struck string instruments".

Hmmm... Did you read the Some "heretic" Questions thread?

Anyway:
Qui trop embrasse, mal étreint
Grasp all, lose all
Jack of all trades, master of none
...

I see somewhat separate markets, but from MY point of view (how I spend my money, etc.)
a) I don't want or need MORE hardware, e.g. a_NOTHER keyboard.
b) I will continue to buy faster laptops with more power (faster and/or more cores) every few years, for other reasons.
c) I do NOT want to lock several thousand dollars into a dedicated instrument that is competitive with "soft" instruments today and for only the next few months but will rapidly become "quaint" over time.
I would rather spend less NOW and (optionally) buy extensions or enhancements over time.

I don't see the GP computer burdened by the "other processes", they can be shutdown easily enough, e.g. network listening, background virus protection, indexing, background de-frag, etc.  Most of these don't need to be run if there isn't (new)file writes to the hard disk.

As to whether or not there will be competitive modeling on laptops ?
I think there might be a "killer synth" in the works somewhere that will at some point swamp pianoteq's niche.
A general purpose synth, not tied to "struck string instruments".

This is particularly true with piano sounds - if the CPU isn't working hard, it's not putting out anything useful.

Yeah, you can't really "simplify" a complex sound-producing process like a piano or a guitar.  Therefore, the CPUs better be busting their humps, or they're just playing poker in the break room while the TV drones on and on at high volume...

I CAN'T FEEL MY LEGS!!!!!  WHAT have you DONE with my LEGS, you sick freaks...