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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Clicks with low latency with an i7 processor & 8GB RAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don’t think this is a strictly a Windows OS problem but should be related to the configuration and installed software/bloatware. Gaming machines are supposed to be better performers...</p><p>A simple solution would be to install Linux along side Windows.&nbsp; I have a recent laptop (UEFI) and have 3 different OSs living happily in my disks.</p><p>If you only want to run Windows, the best thing would be to reinstall it from scratch (before that, don’t forget to download and save to a USB stick the essential drivers, specially the network card). Then you can control what software is to be&nbsp; installed..</p><p>If you can’t, won’t&nbsp; or don’t know how to reinstall it from scratch, the next best thing would be to uninstall all software non vital to music production ( I would also analyze the running services and disable any non essential ones).</p><p>Don’t forget to make a backup before making any intervention!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mfiadeiro]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-02-21T14:01:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Clicks with low latency with an i7 processor & 8GB RAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>stamkorg wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Tarek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Update: No solution was found, I returned the laptop. What I suspect is that there was some kind of an incompatibility between the laptop and the sound card. I&#039;ll know for sure when I get a new laptop. </p><p>If anybody has suggestions for something in the $1k range, hit me up.</p></blockquote></div><p>It is just my opinion but,</p><p>I really, really! think it&#039;s a Windows problem.<br />Some weeks ago I tested a high level desktop pc (i7, 16Gb RAM, SSD disk, Windows 10 pro...), made and optimized for music by a French specialized company and there were still some dropouts, even with an RME AIO PCIe soundcard and even at a common setting (44,1Khz and 128 samples). <br />Despite all the optimization and despite the fact that the processor was at 5% of charge, there still were some Windows processes running unexpectedly that caused the processor or the disk go up to 85-90%.<br />I can not proof that but I am sure Windows is not efficient to manage realtime audio.</p><p>I have never had these kind of problems with Linux, even on a modest pc.</p></blockquote></div><p>In fact, when I was at the store convincing them to return the laptop by proving through LatencyMon that a brand new laptop, with nothing on it and totally idle was showing &quot;your machine is not able to handle real time audio processing&quot;, the guy downloaded LatencyMon on all the display laptops including the strongest of the Alienwares and still he got the same notification on all of them. He was baffled and I started suspecting LM.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tarek]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-02-21T12:01:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Clicks with low latency with an i7 processor & 8GB RAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>stamkorg wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have never had these kind of problems with Linux, even on a modest pc.</p></blockquote></div><p>And with the wifi, bluetooth and all the options activated together...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[stamkorg]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-02-20T20:09:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Clicks with low latency with an i7 processor & 8GB RAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tarek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Update: No solution was found, I returned the laptop. What I suspect is that there was some kind of an incompatibility between the laptop and the sound card. I&#039;ll know for sure when I get a new laptop. </p><p>If anybody has suggestions for something in the $1k range, hit me up.</p></blockquote></div><p>It is just my opinion but,</p><p>I really, really! think it&#039;s a Windows problem.<br />Some weeks ago I tested a high level desktop pc (i7, 16Gb RAM, SSD disk, Windows 10 pro...), made and optimized for music by a French specialized company and there were still some dropouts, even with an RME AIO PCIe soundcard and even at a common setting (44,1Khz and 128 samples). <br />Despite all the optimization and despite the fact that the processor was at 5% of charge, there still were some Windows processes running unexpectedly that caused the processor or the disk go up to 85-90%.<br />I can not proof that but I am sure Windows is not efficient to manage realtime audio.</p><p>I have never had these kind of problems with Linux, even on a modest pc.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[stamkorg]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-02-20T19:20:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Clicks with low latency with an i7 processor & 8GB RAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SmilingKeys wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Tarek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hey guys, I just got a new Dell Inspiron i7-7500U with 8GB RAM specifically cause I&#039;m recording soon and my old PC wasn&#039;t handling low latency whatsoever.</p><p>I&#039;m stunned that even with this new computer (supposedly high performance) I&#039;m still hearing clicks when I&#039;m at 512 samples, let alone 256 and less.<br />I even got a message that the CPU is not strong enough to handle this and the sound was breaking!</p><p>I have a M-Audio M-track 2x2 audio interface.</p><p>Any ideas why would this be happening? Should the Audio Device Type be set on anything specific or is it because of the ASIO?<br />Or could it really be that the computer is not strong enough??</p><p>Any insight is highly appreciated.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hi Tarek - I may have missed that this was recommended or that you did this already, but - have you considered checking to see if the 2x2 interface driver is up to date, and updating if not?</p></blockquote></div><p>Update: No solution was found, I returned the laptop. What I suspect is that there was some kind of an incompatibility between the laptop and the sound card. I&#039;ll know for sure when I get a new laptop. </p><p>If anybody has suggestions for something in the $1k range, hit me up.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tarek]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-02-20T17:05:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Clicks with low latency with an i7 processor & 8GB RAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tarek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hey guys, I just got a new Dell Inspiron i7-7500U with 8GB RAM specifically cause I&#039;m recording soon and my old PC wasn&#039;t handling low latency whatsoever.</p><p>I&#039;m stunned that even with this new computer (supposedly high performance) I&#039;m still hearing clicks when I&#039;m at 512 samples, let alone 256 and less.<br />I even got a message that the CPU is not strong enough to handle this and the sound was breaking!</p><p>I have a M-Audio M-track 2x2 audio interface.</p><p>Any ideas why would this be happening? Should the Audio Device Type be set on anything specific or is it because of the ASIO?<br />Or could it really be that the computer is not strong enough??</p><p>Any insight is highly appreciated.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hi Tarek - I may have missed that this was recommended or that you did this already, but - have you considered checking to see if the 2x2 interface driver is up to date, and updating if not?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-02-13T16:35:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Clicks with low latency with an i7 processor & 8GB RAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I am running S3 and can stack and play 4 different instances of Pianoteeq simultaneously, at 196 samples with no problems. That is on a laptop i7-3632QM.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-02-12T11:51:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Clicks with low latency with an i7 processor & 8GB RAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>@NotYourOwn</p><p>Yes, on Linux for example setting the scaling_governor from powersave to performance can increase PTQ&#039;s performance index about factor 3.</p><p>(here&nbsp; i5-6200U, Blues Demo, D4 Daily Practice, 48 kHz, performance index 15 (with powersave) and 44 (with performance))</p><p>Cheers</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-02-11T21:14:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Clicks with low latency with an i7 processor & 8GB RAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>First time User of Pianoteq. Changing the power / performance options to High made all the difference on my Dell XPS laptop. No more CPU notices. Thanks everyone for a great forum.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-02-11T14:52:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Clicks with low latency with an i7 processor & 8GB RAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Graphic card. What model is it? I have here a 5 years old Sony Vaio laptop that is completely useless for audio due to poorly written graphic drivers from NVidia. In short, there is 4 GB RAM + 1 GB video RAM, but it is designed in such a way that the graphic card randomly steals up to 1,5 GB more RAM. And every time this happens, I get clicks. Solution? None, I bought an Asus laptop...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2016-11-18T08:28:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Clicks with low latency with an i7 processor & 8GB RAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Ovnis31 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Windows update service can cause some audio glitch, too.</p></blockquote></div><br /><br /><p>mega big time.<br />thus, check Task Manager.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2016-11-17T23:31:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Windows update service can cause some audio glitch, too.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ovnis31]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-11-17T23:10:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m no expert.<br />that said, maybe open Task Manager.<br />see whats using a lot of RAM and CPU.</p><p>thats the first thing I would do.<br />if that does not turn up an obvious problem, I would be all for doing what Evil Dragon said: try another interface, Focusrite or RME.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2016-11-17T22:54:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Try to uninstall (deep uninstall) your antivirus. That solves my issue with Avast.<br />I own a m-track 2*2.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ovnis31]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-11-17T17:43:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Clicks with low latency with an i7 processor & 8GB RAM]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I would try with a different audio interface. Something that&#039;s not M-Audio and something that&#039;s not built into the laptop. Focusrite, for example, as I suspect you&#039;ll find RME a bit expensive (but it&#039;s OH SO WORTH THE MONEY). See if you can borrow one from a friend or something, just to test. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>If even after that you get clicks and pops, the problem is deeper somewhere in laptop&#039;s hardware and you&#039;d be better off selling it and getting something that&#039;s not Dell. A Toshiba, for example, or Lenovo. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2016-11-17T15:22:23Z</updated>
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