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			<title><![CDATA[Re: tango]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=961456#p961456</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow wooow bravo and thank you !</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2019 15:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: tango]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=22274#p22274</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>For warm and mellow sound old hardware or plugin emulation is quite good. On slow music something like urei or firechild is a good choice; you can find them used for a reasonable price:<br />Anyway I wrote something here about piano compression in the past; check the bottom of this page maybe you find something useful <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p><a href="http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=1855">http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=1855</a></p><p>PS check also my fxp &#039;Etto-warm&#039;. It&#039;s based on M3 so it could be a different starting point from yours (very good indeed)</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (etto)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 20:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: tango]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=22265#p22265</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>etto wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sorry, I was a little cryptic <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> I intended to lower the &#039;Forte&#039; value in hammer hardness settings.<br />Limiter: I hear a little squash on attacks when you play louder; the dynamic range seems too much &#039;controlled&#039;.</p><p>Said that keep in mind that there is nothing wrong with your settings, as I said before I like the sound as it is. Unless you do big mistakes (and it&#039;s not the case) it is only a matter of personal taste; as long as you use limiting and compression like you did in your example there is nothing wrong with it.<br />I personally don&#039;t like limiters in acoustic recordings and I use them only to prevent clipping.</p></blockquote></div><p>etto,</p><p>I have fixed my velocity curve and turned off the limiter. I have also experimented with turning off the internal PianoTeq compressor, which seems to eliminate (some) of the muddled sound I have. Can you recommend a specific external compressor, maybe even a given preset? Or would an option be to go completely compressor-free? Again, the sound I am going for is warm and mellow (pardon my lack of technical vocabulary!)</p><p>Have a good Sunday!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (nothingbutblues)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 08:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: tango]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=22226#p22226</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I was a little cryptic <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> I intended to lower the &#039;Forte&#039; value in hammer hardness settings.<br />Limiter: I hear a little squash on attacks when you play louder; the dynamic range seems too much &#039;controlled&#039;.</p><p>Said that keep in mind that there is nothing wrong with your settings, as I said before I like the sound as it is. Unless you do big mistakes (and it&#039;s not the case) it is only a matter of personal taste; as long as you use limiting and compression like you did in your example there is nothing wrong with it.<br />I personally don&#039;t like limiters in acoustic recordings and I use them only to prevent clipping.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (etto)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 22:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: tango]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=22225#p22225</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>etto wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>nothingbutblues wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>etto:</p><p>Your piece &quot;Tango&quot; is very, very sweet. Love the composition, love the sound. Reminds me a bit of the music from Amelie from Montmartre.</p><br /><p><a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/78948039/follow_me.m4a">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/78948039/follow_me.m4a</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Thanx!!&nbsp; Not sure if I&#039;ve mentioned but the piano in tango is M3 <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i><br />I like your recording and it seems warm enough to me; you could use a lower setting on high hammer only and a little more hammer sound. Less limiter and maybe an external compressor. Also try adding a mic under the piano..</p><p>ANd here is the MUller commercial; I put the piano as reference for the singer but the client listened to the piano version and liked so much that I had to keep it <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDwxCP2d3U8">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDwxCP2d3U8</a></p><p>Interesting composition Evil!</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you so much for your detailed feedback, etto.</p><p>What do you mean by &quot;use a lower setting on high hammer only&quot;?</p><p>Out of curiosity; what is it in the sound that makes you think I should turn down the limiter? Not at all skeptical about your advice, just want to learn about stuff like this. (Maybe I should turn it off completely, and keep the compressor only?)</p><p>Would love to be able to put a microphone under the piano, but I am limited to PianoTeq Stage as of now!</p><p>Still listening to &quot;Tango&quot; over here.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (nothingbutblues)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 21:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: tango]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=22220#p22220</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nothingbutblues wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>etto:</p><p>Your piece &quot;Tango&quot; is very, very sweet. Love the composition, love the sound. Reminds me a bit of the music from Amelie from Montmartre.</p><br /><p><a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/78948039/follow_me.m4a">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/78948039/follow_me.m4a</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Thanx!!&nbsp; Not sure if I&#039;ve mentioned but the piano in tango is M3 <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i><br />I like your recording and it seems warm enough to me; you could use a lower setting on high hammer only and a little more hammer sound. Less limiter and maybe an external compressor. Also try adding a mic under the piano..</p><p>ANd here is the MUller commercial; I put the piano as reference for the singer but the client listened to the piano version and liked so much that I had to keep it <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDwxCP2d3U8">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDwxCP2d3U8</a></p><p>Interesting composition Evil!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (etto)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 08:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: tango]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=22218#p22218</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nothingbutblues wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>EvilDragon:</p><p>Beautiful piece. Makes me think both of Vangelis (sound-wise) and old video games (composition-wise). Did you edit the midi, or is your sense of time very good? Mind sharing any other D4 recordings? I can&#039;t seem to get the tweaking right, for whatever reason.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks!</p><br /><p>I edited a few manual mistakes I had (finger slips, you can&#039;t do without them, haha), and two or three timing errors, but other than that, I kept the spirit of the theme as it is. I guess I have a good sense of time in slower compositions, then? I will admit that I&#039;m not nearly as precise when playing fast, though. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><br /><p>So far I don&#039;t have any other D4 recordings, but with time, I&#039;ll likely post some.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (EvilDragon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 07:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=22217#p22217</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>etto:</p><p>Your piece &quot;Tango&quot; is very, very sweet. Love the composition, love the sound. Reminds me a bit of the music from Amelie from Montmartre.</p><p>*</p><p>EvilDragon:</p><p>Beautiful piece. Makes me think both of Vangelis (sound-wise) and old video games (composition-wise). Did you edit the midi, or is your sense of time very good? Mind sharing any other D4 recordings? I can&#039;t seem to get the tweaking right, for whatever reason.</p><p>*</p><p>Here is a recording I made of &quot;Follow Me&quot; by Pat Metheny, using K1 solo recording preset in Pianoteq Stage. Reverb, compressor, limiter all turned on, with default settings. How could I tweak this to make it sound warmer and more mellow?</p><p><a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/78948039/follow_me.m4a">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/78948039/follow_me.m4a</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (nothingbutblues)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 07:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[tango]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=19689#p19689</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Another production where Pianoteq is quite exposed <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p><p><a href="http://soundcloud.com/edc-4/tango">http://soundcloud.com/edc-4/tango</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (etto)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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