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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Playing Pianoteq live with your digital piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Be it Yamaha or JBL, every monitor has &quot;its own sound&quot;, you can&#039;t really avoid that. Going to a shop with a few CD&#039;s and making some comparisons is the best way to give yourself an opinion. What I would suggest however is to couple them with a sub. I&#039;m absolutely not a &quot;bass fanatic&quot;, but 5&quot; or even 8&quot; monitors just can&#039;t do justice to what Pianoteq (or a real grand for that matter!) is capable of in the (very) low range. And the (preferably bi-amped, of course) 5&quot; or 8&quot; monitors will simply not have to try to achieve what they can&#039;t do anyway: producing a deep and clean bass.<br />Another thing: the event should better be facing you and not be at the rear of the monitors( like the JBL I think): this makes the positioning close to a wall much more difficult without ruining the low range - again.<br />Just my 2 cents.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Luc Henrion]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-01-31T13:41:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Playing Pianoteq live with your digital piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ADWyatt wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I currently own a Kawai CA65, and while I&#039;d like to play Pianoteq through its speakers, the quality of those speakers just isn&#039;t sufficient to really give acceptable quality with Pianoteq. It seems to me that since the CA65 has great action, and I want to keep it, I might be smart to buy external speakers. And that&#039;s where it gets difficult.</p><p>I could buy a pair of JBL 305&#039;s for about $300 USD, or a pair of JBL&#039;s 308&#039;s for around $500, but will these make Pianoteq sound good? I don&#039;t want to go up into the $1,000 range and higher for speakers, because then I might just as well save for a future purchase of a higher-end digital piano. And so if anyone is using speakers with Pianoteq, please feel free to give me any advice and opinions that might help me.</p><p>Thanks in advance for all help.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hi ADWyatt, (and others still thinking about sound setups for using Pianoteq) hoping this helps.</p><p>I&#039;d recommend 8inch monitors rather than 5inch - you may pay more but IMHO it&#039;s well worth it for a more realistic bass response (if the goal is primarily to sound as much like a real piano &quot;in your room&quot; or &quot;in your face&quot; with near-field monitors - on a budget).</p><p>Coincidentally I also have a Kawai CA65, had if for years, a good solid work horse. I decided a while ago to upgrade and nearly purchased all sorts of outrageous solutions which I&#039;m now glad that I didn&#039;t.</p><p>In the end I kept the CA65 so I can still simply turn on and play with no fuss but also bought a Kawai MP11 and a set of Yamaha HS8 near-field speakers for use with Pianoteq 5.</p><p>I very highly recommend those Yamaha HS8 speakers.</p><p>Likewise recommend the Kawai MP11 - it&#039;s extraordinary of course. To me it has a surprisingly more realistic grand piano type of action than the CA65/sensitivity - also handles midi/key info utilised by Pianoteq - couldn&#039;t be happier really. Feels quite similar to large grands and the Shigeru Kawai keys - although have been told it&#039;s too weighty for some, tastes being different and all but it must be said, I love that action - it is what I love about the feeling of playing a real grand piano.</p><p>The other high end Kawai VPC1 would also be brilliant as it has a flat top (no buttons in the way) which might suit better. I prefer the MP11 because it can be taken on the road and I can be satisfied with its own inbuilt sounds which are improved over the CA65. The VPC1 is like the MP11 but without it&#039;s own internal sounds, buttons or display.</p><p>Everyone&#039;s mileage may vary but I&#039;m frequently seeing people ask about setups for using Pianoteq and I do believe the extra expense of acquiring a quality keyboard and monitors is one of those life-changing things which turns out to be well worth it, if the piano is somewhat more than a basic feature in your world of course.</p><p>Quick practice or teasing out a tune, the CA65 is just fine although I really don&#039;t find I use it often as a &quot;go to&quot; like I expected to. It faces opposite the MP11 so in all the space is still a compact area. </p><p>If I want to record a session (which Pianoteq does brilliantly without fuss as midi files) or something more with a DAW, then it&#039;s really only a few minutes to get the PC rig running and if I&#039;m in that mode then I&#039;m going to be using a digital audio workstation anyway for many hours at a time.</p><p>There are more expensive speakers out there but I find the Yamahas give a very flat response and sound superb (credible bass) if used as near-field monitors so high volume is not required for me. I wouldn&#039;t want any other monitors for less than thousands of USD. Also ruled out other similarly priced speakers because sound colouration which I&#039;d always have to tweak against (built in &quot;extra&quot; bass or weird frequency curves). The Yamahas really are good at doing flat response IMO (backed up by their stats/charts) which doesn&#039;t mean they sound flat (EQ any way you like - but having flat response to work with, you know where you&#039;re at). You also could have more and/or larger/louder speakers placed strategically further away etc but that&#039;s not what I wanted - preferred monitors for all purposes in DAWs.</p><p>Near realism in my case is just a delight with the setup I&#039;m using that I honestly wouldn&#039;t feel much benefit from spending more and I now simply cannot recommend less.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Qexl]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-01-31T07:19:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Playing Pianoteq live with your digital piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2481603/Re:_Digital_Pianos_vs._Real_Pi.html#Post2481603">http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre...ost2481603</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AKM]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-01-30T23:33:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I currently own a Kawai CA65, and while I&#039;d like to play Pianoteq through its speakers, the quality of those speakers just isn&#039;t sufficient to really give acceptable quality with Pianoteq. It seems to me that since the CA65 has great action, and I want to keep it, I might be smart to buy external speakers. And that&#039;s where it gets difficult.</p><p>I could buy a pair of JBL 305&#039;s for about $300 USD, or a pair of JBL&#039;s 308&#039;s for around $500, but will these make Pianoteq sound good? I don&#039;t want to go up into the $1,000 range and higher for speakers, because then I might just as well save for a future purchase of a higher-end digital piano. And so if anyone is using speakers with Pianoteq, please feel free to give me any advice and opinions that might help me.</p><p>Thanks in advance for all help.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ADWyatt]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-01-30T23:04:20Z</updated>
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