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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Why mono sound more real to me?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>GRB wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My statement is taken from&nbsp; Peter Schickele (PDQ Bach) about music in general, &quot;If it sounds good, it is good.&quot;</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>And Peter Schickele acknowledged many times on his weekly syndicated radio program that he was quoting the late, great Duke Ellington.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jcfelice88keys]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Why mono sound more real to me?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Modellingoptimist wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>GRB wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Whatever sounds best is best.</p></blockquote></div><p>From an artistic point of view, which is undoubtedly very important, yes. But when we talk about realness things become more objective. Phase cancellation e. g. can be minimized.</p><p>sengpielaudio.com is a huge German knowledge data base on audio engineering. There I found a remarkable passage on panning. If I understand it right my assumption regarding phase cancellation is right for AB and near-coincident pair stereo techniques: <a href="http://www.sengpielaudio.com/Panoramaregler-Panpot.pdf">http://www.sengpielaudio.com/Panoramaregler-Panpot.pdf</a></p></blockquote></div><p>My statement is taken from&nbsp; Peter Schickele (PDQ Bach) about music in general, &quot;If it sounds good, it is good.&quot;<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Schickele">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Schickele</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-09-10T12:32:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>GRB wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Whatever sounds best is best.</p></blockquote></div><p>From an artistic point of view, which is undoubtedly very important, yes. But when we talk about realness things become more objective. Phase cancellation e. g. can be minimized.</p><p>sengpielaudio.com is a huge German knowledge data base on audio engineering. There I found a remarkable passage on panning. If I understand it right my assumption regarding phase cancellation is right for AB and near-coincident pair stereo techniques: <a href="http://www.sengpielaudio.com/Panoramaregler-Panpot.pdf">http://www.sengpielaudio.com/Panoramaregler-Panpot.pdf</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Modellingoptimist]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-09-09T16:48:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s probably related to phase issues. It seems that a distant microphone pair (AB) in pianoteq provides a wide sense of space but the sound wanders a lot. To solve this&nbsp; you can use mono, a XY or MS setup. The image will be stereo but will have less phase issues. Another way would be to correct the stereo image via an external FX plugin.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-09-09T16:25:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#039;m a mono-addict too.&nbsp; A mono sound source in a <strong>real</strong> room has more punch and directness than any room-<strong>simulation</strong> or phantom sound sources IMHO. Stereo is too often a mess with &quot;phasiness&quot;.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-09-09T15:31:57Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Whatever sounds best is best.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-09-09T11:47:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello 2046,</p><p>how do you like the &quot;Stereophonic&quot; output and do you think hard panning in &quot;Sound Recording&quot; mode improves the default sound of the presets? Thanks.</p><p>Cheers</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-09-08T20:39:27Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mr. 2046,</p><p>Your Genelec monitors are very good monitors, especially in terms of imaging.&nbsp; Taking into account that you have acoustically treated your room, and that the Gens are positioned in free space, I imagine that you are basking in the pleasure of hearing &quot;pinpoint imaging&quot; that seems to float directly in front of your head.</p><p>I don&#039;t know if the Standard version allows you to go into the Stereo Recording window, and adjust the slider for Stereo Spread.&nbsp; If this is possible for you to do in the Standard version, you might try moving the slider all the way to the left (mono).&nbsp; After having achieved the mono effect, you might want to move the slider just slightly to the right.&nbsp; Surely, you should be able to find that the sonic image still floats in front of your head, but does have a little side-to-side information to it as well.</p><p>Food for thought,</p><p>Joe</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-09-08T15:47:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey there</p><p>I have one question related to the sound quality and I wonder if someone else has the same or similar feeling.</p><p>I have the Pianoteq standard version and all setups I have tried, all &quot;classical&quot; pianos sound to me better when running thru mono output.<br />I have Genelecs M30 in free space pointing to me as they should, the room is acusticaly treated not 100% perfect, but no base stands in the room and no flatter echo and stuff. So I guess the stereo imaging is not twisted in any crucial way. But still the mono output sounds more real.. in comparison to my old Petrof Grand .)<br />Sure the stereo imaging is gone but ... <br />Is it because the sound picture goes more infront of me as like the piano body does or .. what is that? <br />I think it is not just the space presence but the whole quaility is more crisp and right there compare to stereo that sounds more mellow, polished and sure bit distant.<br />It is also wort to mention that if I speak about the &quot;better&quot; quality I mean quality of a piano staying next to you not a feeling you get from piano on stage or concert hall and so.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-09-08T11:58:42Z</updated>
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