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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Wooden piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There is a scent of a future request in the air...</p><p>Option to place variable materials between hammers and strings.</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>DonSmith wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>At 2:45 on the video, it looks like there&#039;s some material placed between the hammers and the strings of the piano.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-14T22:01:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>At 2:45 on the video, it looks like there&#039;s some material placed between the hammers and the strings of the piano.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[DonSmith]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-14T21:30:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jcfelice88keys wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It is clearly visible on the piano, some 50 seconds into the video.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes! I see it! Thanks.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Chopin87 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Use midi CC instead.</p></blockquote></div><p>I have single pedal on my digital piano and it&#039;s assigned to sustain and I don&#039;t want lose it. When I press key by mouse on the virtual keyboard -- it recorded! But pedals does not...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ross]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-14T16:42:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Wooden piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Lylo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>what is the mystery? There the pratice pedal (mute pedal) to down and she gently plays, that&#039;s all.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>You are exactly correct:&nbsp; The practice pedal&#039;s (referring to middle pedal in many newer upright pianos) layer of felt has been engaged.&nbsp; It is clearly visible on the piano, some 50 seconds into the video.</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Joe</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jcfelice88keys]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-14T15:00:10Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Ross wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I tried to search &quot;celesta pedal&quot;, &quot;practice pedal&quot; and &quot;mute pedal&quot; and found nothing about how it realized, not found even pictures... Maybe I unlearned to use google?</p></blockquote></div><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_pedals#Other_pedals">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_pedals#Other_pedals</a></p><p>Or simply page 39 of pianoteq manual.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Ross wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>UPD. At 2:44 I see yellow layer between all strings and hammers. He seems prepared the piano, not just pedal use.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p><a href="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9351/53689517fc7.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/322624/all/YUS5%2520Image%2520Gallery%2520and%2520Review.html&amp;h=600&amp;w=800&amp;tbnid=MeXlJDWvY8SDqM:&amp;zoom=1&amp;docid=iiFGe4pQszP0OM&amp;ei=40XfVK22EsPgaJq0gpgG&amp;tbm=isch&amp;ved=0CDoQMygWMBY">http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...DoQMygWMBY</a></p><p>That&#039;s the only decent image I could find of a celeste felt bar in a quick search. Probably on YouTube there are videos showing it better. <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Ross wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>UPD. I just noticed, that celesta pedal was not recorded in the demo above... I pressed it by mouse in the user interface. Why pianoteq ignores pedal that pressed in such way when recording?</p></blockquote></div><p>Use midi CC instead.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Chopin87]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-14T13:23:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Wooden piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all. I simply didn&#039;t know about existence of such pedal. With the pedal, increased hammer noise, decreased hammers hardness, increased 1st overtone I have something like piano on the video!</p><p><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/3by5gtq2zgsg4o9/curse.mp3">demo</a></p><p>I tried to search &quot;celesta pedal&quot;, &quot;practice pedal&quot; and &quot;mute pedal&quot; and found nothing about how it realized, not found even pictures... Maybe I unlearned to use google?</p><p>UPD. At 2:44 I see yellow layer between all strings and hammers. He seems prepared the piano, not just pedal use.</p><p>UPD. I just noticed, that celesta pedal was not recorded in the demo above... I pressed it by mouse in the user interface. Why pianoteq ignores pedal that pressed in such way when recording?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ross]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-14T08:58:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>what is the mystery? There the pratice pedal (mute pedal) to down and she gently plays, that&#039;s all.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lylo]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-14T08:23:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Wooden piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>JerryKnight wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>To me, it looks &amp; sounds like a standard upright una corda pedal, which drops a layer of felt in front of the hammers.</p></blockquote></div><p>I think you are right on the sound with just a single remark: you are describing the celeste pedal of an upright. The una corda in the upright usually shifts the action closer to the strings.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>JerryKnight wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>EDIT 2: That does raise the question - Does the Pianoteq U4 model the una corda this way? Or is an extra layer of felt similar enough to the offset hammers in a grand piano&#039;s una corda that it doesn&#039;t matter?</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, among the different pedals you can choose there is a celeste pedal, which is crucial for an upright sound. I was able to set up mines just like they appear on my U3: una corda, central celeste (which also has a switch to fix his position) and damper pedal.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Chopin87]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-14T00:31:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Wooden piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The extra mechanical noise is coming from the recording of the viola being plucked and/or the bouncing bow. The loop was recorded in the beginning of the video.</p><p>That&#039;s my best guess anyways.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JerryKnight]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-13T22:04:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s not prepared piano. It seems to be layered with another sound... or there was a mic very close to the hammers or mechanics, it&#039;s picking up a lot of mechanics noise.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-13T21:54:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think it is a ´prepared piano´, perhaps with something placed on hammers.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[marcos daniel]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-13T21:25:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>To me, it looks &amp; sounds like a standard upright una corda pedal, which drops a layer of felt in front of the hammers.</p><p>They may have doctored it a bit more, but the percussive sound layer could have been added on top from another source.</p><p>EDIT: I bothered to watch the beginning, and it&#039;s obvious now that they&#039;re live sequencing, so the percussive clicking I was hearing was recorded from the viola in the beginning.</p><p>EDIT 2: That does raise the question - Does the Pianoteq U4 model the una corda this way? Or is an extra layer of felt similar enough to the offset hammers in a grand piano&#039;s una corda that it doesn&#039;t matter?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JerryKnight]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-13T20:36:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Wooden piano]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I like keyboard sound in this video (from 2:10):</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1wgaFJ0750">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1wgaFJ0750</a></p><p>Is it piano? If yes, why it has so soft, &quot;wooden&quot; sound? Is it possible to implement it using Pianoteq?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Ross]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-13T20:00:07Z</updated>
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