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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Church Organ Add-on?]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=951783#p951783</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hauptwerk software have a option magnification of some controls&nbsp; for users who have a touch screen monitor, to control the stops. It&#039;s a good idea to implement the same on organteq.</p><p>On web there are some DIY projects to use 3 cheap 66 keys midi keyboards, and adapt pedal boards from very old elretronic organs, to create a midi organ controller with pedalboards midi controller.</p><p>People go to DIY cause the MIDI controller devices for sale are very expansive. Some people direct buy the digital organs, but who intent to buy a complete digital organ in general is not thinking about buy a digital ogan software.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>LTECpiano wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Beakybird: &quot;I am loathe to discourage someone from pursuing their dreams, but as a consumer, a modeled pipe organ is the last thing I&#039;d be interested in. Furthermore, how do you manually change the flutes while you&#039;re playing?&quot;</p><p>Well, consider:&nbsp; 88 less 61 = 27 keys left over to control presets.&nbsp; 13 notes above the 61 note range and 13 notes above the 61 note range ... and 1 left over for a cancel.&nbsp; This, of course is just an example ... not even counting that those 27 keys could be programmable just like the thumb pistons on a classic pipe organ or like the preset keys on a Hammond XB-3M.</p><p>I am fascinated that Mordartt is doing this.</p><p>And all the while, I will be enjoying playing the great piano models.</p><p>Kudos to all,</p><p>Lanny</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2017 14:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=951779#p951779</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Beakybird: &quot;I am loathe to discourage someone from pursuing their dreams, but as a consumer, a modeled pipe organ is the last thing I&#039;d be interested in. Furthermore, how do you manually change the flutes while you&#039;re playing?&quot;</p><p>Well, consider:&nbsp; 88 less 61 = 27 keys left over to control presets.&nbsp; 13 notes above the 61 note range and 13 notes above the 61 note range ... and 1 left over for a cancel.&nbsp; This, of course is just an example ... not even counting that those 27 keys could be programmable just like the thumb pistons on a classic pipe organ or like the preset keys on a Hammond XB-3M.</p><p>I am fascinated that Mordartt is doing this.</p><p>And all the while, I will be enjoying playing the great piano models.</p><p>Kudos to all,</p><p>Lanny</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (LTECpiano)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2017 13:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=951775#p951775</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>By the way, Organteq is coded by a new developer, seems separate from the core Pianoteq team. So what&#039;s wrong in diversifying a bit, then?</p></blockquote></div><p>Nothing wrong with that. I hope it&#039;s a successful venture, and I hope that much is learned that can be applied to the Pianoteq instruments that I play.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2017 04:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=951765#p951765</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Electric pianos already had a bunch of improvements for version 6 (so did all other pianos).</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>beakybird wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Furthermore, how do you manually change the flutes while you&#039;re playing?</p></blockquote></div><p>Quite easily, lowest available E key switches from 8&#039; flute to 4&#039; flute - Organteq Alpha only has two stops. We&#039;ll see how the more elaborate version of Organteq handles this... sometime in 2018.</p><br /><p>By the way, Organteq is coded by a new developer, seems separate from the core Pianoteq team. So what&#039;s wrong in diversifying a bit, then?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (EvilDragon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2017 17:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=951762#p951762</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I am loathe to discourage someone from pursuing their dreams, but as a consumer, a modeled pipe organ is the last thing I&#039;d be interested in. Furthermore, how do you manually change the flutes while you&#039;re playing?</p><p>I think that the Pianoteq pianos, while excellent, need improvement. I would rather Modartt concentrate on a perfect piano - and electric piano. Out of all of the models, I think that the R1 and R2 need the most improvement. I think AAS created a modeled digital piano with a lot of versatility that Pianoteq doesn&#039;t have. </p><p>A few more piano models would be welcome.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2017 16:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=951745#p951745</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Very cool...just got it... thank you!!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2017 01:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=951734#p951734</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Here and Organteq has ripened)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2017 18:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=936368#p936368</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The toypiano have unison adjust in pianoteq.&nbsp; In real world this is impossible since it&#039;s just a metal patê for each nore, but pianoteq made possible. <br />So I don&#039;t see lots of troubles in interface, in case they decide to built a organ add-on.&nbsp; It&#039;s more a matter of time, money, market etc...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Beto-Music)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2014 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=936352#p936352</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p><p>Interesting reading. As often – for and against.<br />No organs, no synths in Pianoteq. There are so many already out there. That is my opinion(but who knows what the future will bring). I do not see myself as an expert at all on things in this forum,&nbsp; so, instead I am reading and learning. But, I have the&nbsp; experiences in my life. - When I want to play church organ/pipe organ, I connect my keyboard to iPad mini with usb-to-lightning connector and use Jeux d&#039;orgues by Markus Sigg, Organ for iPad (The Organ in church Romanswiller, Wasselonne, Alsace, France, the style of Stiehr-Mockers). Fabulous! When young, I was stand-in&nbsp; six months for an organist on sundays(church service, marriage,funeral, choirs etc.), and I think these Sigg apps sounds quite like those old church organs at that time. Not synthesizerlike - like real.&nbsp; And, by the way, I like the possibility to have different piano sounds every day. For me, Pianoteq is still as fresh, as one year ago, when I bought it. Thank you, Modartt.</p><p>Best regards</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Pianoteqenthusiast)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=936348#p936348</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I must admit that this request for a Church organ Add-on (or an organ of any kind, for that matter) leaves me somewhat perplexed.<br />All the add-ons (at least, so far <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i> ) make use of the current GUI and (sometimes slight variants of) its existing editing parameters.<br />In what way would that be of any use if you want to try emulating an organ?.. there&#039;s hardly a single editing parameter that would make the slightest sense for an organ.<br />And how would you expect to play the thing with anything resembling organ technique? Even if you decided on a particular organ to emulate, how would you control its registers?<br />If on the other hand, you are requesting a completely new Pianoteq instrument (specifically for organ), then that is another matter altogether <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i>. (If you have any experience of Hauptwerk, you&#039;d know what I mean. Now, it would make more sense to request Hauptwerk to make a modeled version rather than a sampled one, but the basic user interface wouldn&#039;t need to change at all <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i> )<br />The whole beauty of Pianoteq, is that you can play it like a real piano. it&#039;s what it was designed for. And all the current &quot;non-piano&quot; add-ons do at least make practical use of its existing parameters.<br />To me, I&#039;m afraid, this request is about as relevant as asking for a trombone add-on <i class="far fa-grin-tongue-squint smiley"></i></p><p>(o.k. bring it on! <i class="far fa-grin-tongue-squint smiley"></i> )</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (vic_france)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2014 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Do you mind to record a mp3 example of problematic aspect and also a example of the desirable sound you refer?</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Ross wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><strong>matthew</strong><br /> But I need that these pianos become better. Especially, K2. For now, it has too synthetic sound in small velocities. I would like it to be more dark and more brilliant at the same time, to use it as ideal piano for heavy and dark music.</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Beto-Music)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>matthew</strong><br />Historical pianos have not great sound (I mean not the pianoteq model, but the pianos itself), I think. It&#039;s useful sometimes for old classical compositions, but not for everyday use.</p><p>IMHO, the current set of mainstream pianos (D4, Bluthner, K2, YC5, U4) are pretty full set. I personally need no more. But I need that these pianos become better. Especially, K2. For now, it has too synthetic sound in small velocities. I would like it to be more dark and more brilliant at the same time, to use it as ideal piano for heavy and dark music.</p><p>If you need many non-piano sounds, download/buy many non-piano VSTs. There are many (look <a href="https://www.applied-acoustics.com/modeling-collection/">AAS</a> products, for example). Currently Pianoteq is the best software piano, it&#039;s better than all sampled and hybrid pianos I used. But time flows, software pianos evolve, there is tough competition. So, it&#039;s not too smart to waste manhours for synths, organs and other sub-sounds. In my opinion, it&#039;s better to develop existing pianos. As I said they are not ideal yet (except Bluthner <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i>.</p><p>P.S. My English is awful, it&#039;s not my native language. Sorry me please.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 19:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Ross wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>+1 to NO organ/synth in Pianoteq. I think it&#039;s better to develop new piano models (modern and historical) and improving existing.</p><p>&quot;Do one thing but do it well.&quot;</p></blockquote></div><p>They&#039;re already doing lots of things (hand drums, harpsichords, modern grand pianos, electric instruments). Once they get to a certain point, I think there will just be too many pianos (I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll get crap for this!). </p><p>With the pianos that come with the software, the KiVir instruments, the add-on pianos, not to mention the two sets of Kremsegg, you basically can play a different piano every day for THREE weeks straight (excluding harpsichords and other instruments). After determining your piano for the day, you have to determine your preset or create your own. Soon users will be overburdened with choice, and some great instruments will be necessarily neglected. </p><p>In my opinion, it is better to have a handful of great pianos, which are constantly being made better, along with a small handful of harpsichords, clavichords, fortepianos, etc. So I partially agree—but just make them better instead of adding a bunch of new ones. </p><p>An organ, on the other hand, would be a new offering that would fill a particular niche. More pianos would perhaps fill some niche, but it would really just add to the burden of choice (a hotly described topic in psychology these days).</p><p>These days, sometimes I just switch on my DP and use the onboard sounds. That way I don&#039;t have to even think about which Pianoteq instrument to play.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 18:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=936297#p936297</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#039;s ridiculous that Hauptwerk doesn&#039;t use direct-from-disk streaming considering how huge its samplesets are...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (EvilDragon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=936296#p936296</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this link to the Aeolus.....</p><p>But, alais, none can convince me. It is so synthetic......not only the pipe speaking, but also the lack of things happening during the sounding of the pipe, wind noise, irregularities...</p><p>As a means for studying its excellent, but in no way can it be a substitue for HW, GO, or some jOrgan soundsets.</p><p>Bu it would be nice, if this could evolve further, as&nbsp; these huge samplesets, which sometimes need 32 Gig or more memory, is not very elegant.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 15:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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