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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 61 or 64-key Controller for Harpsichords / Clavichord]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have a Roland C-30, which is useful as a standalone digital harpsichord. But it can also be used as a midi-controller, and I use it for that purpose when playing the PTQ harpsichords and clavichord. I have not taken the trouble to customize the velocity curve or other keyboard specific qualities, but it is nonetheless preferable to the weighted action 88 key Kawai VPC 1 I use for the pianos, when playing these lighter and smaller instruments&#039; sounds. And it actually is reasonably portable. The upper part weighs about 65 lbs. and can be easily detached from the trestle; the lid is also easily removed. I take the Roland harpsichord with me several times a month for rehearsal of Baroque chamber music. Admittedly, I usually use the onboard sounds because it&#039;s somewhat of a hassle to take everything necessary to use the PTQ harpsichords, even though I like them, especially the Grimaldi. I haven&#039;t been able to figure out any way to use the Roland&#039;s onboard speakers with PTQ. You have to mute the speakers entirely in order to use the digital harpsichord as a controller, which then means you have to use powered speakers and an interface to play the PTQ instruments. </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>smulloni wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It wouldn&#039;t be at all portable, but you might be interested in the Roland c-30 digital harpsichord, which has an action that emulates a harpsichord&#039;s.&nbsp; A queer product.&nbsp; I haven&#039;t ever played or seen one.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2019-02-09T23:04:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 61 or 64-key Controller for Harpsichords / Clavichord]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ChrisM wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I don&#039;t know of anything but this question reminds me of an article I ready some years back (I think in Keyboard Magazine). Apparently somebody was experimenting with a keyboard design that uses solenoids to emulate different keyboard &quot;feels&quot;. I found what appear to be a couple of related articles:</p><p><a href="http://pe.org.pl/articles/2013/2b/17.pdf">http://pe.org.pl/articles/2013/2b/17.pdf</a></p><p><a href="http://www.google.ca/patents/US6121535">http://www.google.ca/patents/US6121535</a></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>I may have read the same article, it was a while ago and from time to time I reflect on why nothing seems to have come to market.<br />In re-reading the Horvath paper....&nbsp; &nbsp;For some ODD reason it reminded me that the &quot;horseless carriage&quot; wasn&#039;t developed with rein &amp; whip controls for steering &amp; accelerator <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i><br />The foot brake made it through, but little else.<br />{Voice commands might come back, quite soon in fact, but probably not exactly the same words, e.g. Whoa, Gee, walk on.}</p><p>A crazy thought perhaps, but there may be a case for NOT trying to emulate previous interfaces too closely.<br />For example I see little point in ME developing the touch required of a concert pianist on a 9 ft grand when playing some virtuosic piece.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-06-05T11:16:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 61 or 64-key Controller for Harpsichords / Clavichord]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have a Roland C-30, which is an eminently satisfactory stand alone practice harpsichord (two models, French and Flemish), plus a less than wonderful fortepiano and two portatif organs). I also use it from time to time as a controller for the harpsichords and clavichord on PTQ. (Someone on here said it&#039;s &quot;touch sensitive,&quot; but as near as I can tell it does NOT have afterouch, so the bebung effect on the clavichord is unavailable through the keys. I have been unable to make a pedal control of the aftertouch parameter work using either the Roland or my VPC1). </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>smulloni wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It wouldn&#039;t be at all portable, but you might be interested in the Roland c-30 digital harpsichord, which has an action that emulates a harpsichord&#039;s.&nbsp; A queer product.&nbsp; I haven&#039;t ever played or seen one.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-04-06T01:44:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 61 or 64-key Controller for Harpsichords / Clavichord]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Wheat Williams wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I found a link to a company in Canada, Classic MIDI Works, that has such a product, which they sell as an organ console component...</p><p>If you can find one of these and try it out, let us know if it is suitable.</p></blockquote></div><p>I use these keyboards for my digital Organ.&nbsp; They work outstandingly well for digital Harpsichord as well.</p><p>A single stand-alone keyboard would work just fine, and is &quot;ready to use&quot;, but it looks unfinished without its frame (&quot;key cheeks&quot;).&nbsp; The frames they sell are designed for stacks of at least two keyboards, so for a single keyboard you could either choose to ignore the unfinished appearance, or design some simple frame on your own.</p><p>The keyboard itself I can highly recommend for use with digital harpsichords or organs.&nbsp; It is velocity sensitive, so can also be used for a digital piano, but the feel is of course highly atypical for this application.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[OrganoPleno]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-12-04T16:52:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 61 or 64-key Controller for Harpsichords / Clavichord]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Fatar sells a &quot;Classical Keyboard&quot;, a bare keyboard mechanism, without a case, power supply or circuitry, that is supposed to be designed to emulate the &quot;snap&quot; of historical tracker organ keyboards. I believe it would be suitable for a digital harpsichord, but I have never actually seen or tried the product. </p><p><a href="http://www.fatar.com/Pages/TP_8L.htm">http://www.fatar.com/Pages/TP_8L.htm</a></p><p>There are kit organ console companies that sell the other components you would need to assemble a functioning MIDI controller from the Fatar mechanism.</p><p>I found a link to a company in Canada, Classic MIDI Works, that has such a product, which they sell as an organ console component; you can buy one 61-key manual for US $525. It is designed to fit into an organ console, but perhaps they could modify it to make a stand-alone single-manual keyboard controller in a case, or you could build one yourself.</p><p><a href="http://www.us.midiworks.ca/index.php?option=com_opencart&amp;Itemid=104&amp;route=product/product&amp;path=1&amp;product_id=140">http://www.us.midiworks.ca/index.php?op...uct_id=140</a></p><p>If you can find one of these and try it out, let us know if it is suitable.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Wheat Williams]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-11-25T04:26:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 61 or 64-key Controller for Harpsichords / Clavichord]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know of anything but this question reminds me of an article I ready some years back (I think in Keyboard Magazine). Apparently somebody was experimenting with a keyboard design that uses solenoids to emulate different keyboard &quot;feels&quot;. I found what appear to be a couple of related articles:</p><p><a href="http://pe.org.pl/articles/2013/2b/17.pdf">http://pe.org.pl/articles/2013/2b/17.pdf</a></p><p><a href="http://www.google.ca/patents/US6121535">http://www.google.ca/patents/US6121535</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ChrisM]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-11-25T01:29:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 61 or 64-key Controller for Harpsichords / Clavichord]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It wouldn&#039;t be at all portable, but you might be interested in the Roland c-30 digital harpsichord, which has an action that emulates a harpsichord&#039;s.&nbsp; A queer product.&nbsp; I haven&#039;t ever played or seen one.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[smulloni]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-11-25T01:21:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[61 or 64-key Controller for Harpsichords / Clavichord]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I posted earlier about trying to find a decent keyboard for air travel/long-term stays abroad:</p><p><a href="http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=3614">http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=3614</a><br />and<br /><a href="http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2349423/Moving_abroad_with_a_digital.html#Post2349423">http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre...ost2349423</a></p><p>To say the least, my search has failed.</p><p>So, I have come up with a new idea. There are a lot of very light, inexpensive, synth- or semi-weighted, 61-key controllers on the market. I see a lot of posts here about the best controller for piano sounds, but what about a suitable (realistic?) controller for emulating the action of a harpsichord or clavichord? Two completely different actions and mechanisms, I know—but what would come close? I have never played either. </p><p>While I could continue to play the pianos with a semi-weighted controller, the idea of devoting myself to the Pianoteq harpsichords and clavichord while traveling, using a cheaper 61-key controller without fully weighted keys, is becoming more and more appealing (albeit in a fanciful, romanticized way…).</p><p>Does anyone use a devoted controller for the harpsichords or clavichord? What would be a good option?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-11-22T18:57:17Z</updated>
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