Johan, ideally it works slightly other way. I'm a pianist and can say from my perspective that when or if I need a piano first of all I'm getting in contact with piano, well, most people say "tuner" I'd rather say specialist or restavrator, since actual tuning for home use is a least important thing for my strongest believe. In your local school or place where you live, or it is some person who you teacher knows, ok, it is a person who will have responsibility for your piano for years.
Well it may sound stupid, but heres our situation.
My son and i both have other teachers. i called my teachers pianotuner, who will tune the piano, to have a visit with me, but considering the piano is only 1000€ and the piano is bought from the first owner who sells it because of her age, the brand of the piano, he consider this a save buy. nothing much could have gone wrong in this old lady's house. The piano is 25 years old. I played myself of it a few times and loved the sound (it has been 5 years when he was last tuned - and still in tone)
I know, it seems a way of wiping me off, so now i have sked my son's teacher if he knew some technician, and he proposed to join me himself. I have confidence in this person to give me his neutral advice when played on it.
]]>EdwardianPiano wrote:Johann the acoustic piano you visited looks lovely. Maybe you can go and see it again with a piano tuner who can then look at the action etc. You could still have the digital with pianoteq for later evening times and also for when you and your son both want to practise at the same time!
Well, that's what i am going to do this evening... Let our pianoteacher play on it and evaluate it. He has also some knowledge about the inside of piano's.
Later we, when it seems that we have need for the digital, we can still try/buy Pianoteq.
Johan, ideally it works slightly other way. I'm a pianist and can say from my perspective that when or if I need a piano first of all I'm getting in contact with piano, well, most people say "tuner" I'd rather say specialist or restavrator, since actual tuning for home use is a least important thing for my strongest believe. In your local school or place where you live, or it is some person who you teacher knows, ok, it is a person who will have responsibility for your piano for years. You tell him that you need a piano, tell the amount of money you can spend, ask him if he knows where to get it. After you developed some idea you go both to check the instrument and to decide the price. Tuner usually take some fee for this service. When it is up to decision which instrument to choose the tuner's world is most valuable, not, say mine. I'll try to explain. I can find an instrument that seems more or less good for me and a price is not so high, and I may like it, but the tuner can say that this instrument has some serious defects and not recommend buying it. And the opposite situation is also very common - I see an instrument that seem to me in a very bad condition but experienced specialist can say that it is quite easy to fix and overall the instrument is very good. Then consider the transportation, I seriously not recommend to try to organise it with yourself, with the help of your friends, etc. in case to save some money. My advice is call special service for piano transportation. It is quite expensive, but the quality of the service guaranteed. Believe me, I gathered a huge negative experience from the "do it myself" way.
]]>Johann the acoustic piano you visited looks lovely. Maybe you can go and see it again with a piano tuner who can then look at the action etc. You could still have the digital with pianoteq for later evening times and also for when you and your son both want to practise at the same time!
Well, that's what i am going to do this evening... Let our pianoteacher play on it and evaluate it. He has also some knowledge about the inside of piano's.
Later we, when it seems that we have need for the digital, we can still try/buy Pianoteq.
You cold use pisnoteq to help tune the piano. Note professional tune but the "quick fix" many people do in few notes to try to keep the tune as good as possible between professional tuning work.
If pianoteq had a option justo to allow listen the sound of each string alone, this would help a lot to tuning real pianos, since in a real piano you need to tune each string, and most of the notes/keys have 3 strings with little slight diferente frequency.
Much easier:
. . . Get a free a auto-tuner for your smartphone.
For Android, "DA-Tuner" works very well. It will read in Hz, string-by-string, as you tune the piano.
Tuning a piano -- even with an auto-tuner -- is not trivial.
. Charles
]]>You cold use pisnoteq to help tune the piano. Note professional tune but the "quick fix" many people do in few notes to try to keep the tune as good as possible between professional tuning work.
If pianoteq had a option justo to allow listen the sound of each string alone, this would help a lot to tuning real pianos, since in a real piano you need to tune each string, and most of the notes/keys have 3 strings with little slight diferente frequency.
Much easier:
. . . Get a free a auto-tuner for your smartphone.
For Android, "DA-Tuner" works very well. It will read in Hz, string-by-string, as you tune the piano.
Tuning a piano -- even with an auto-tuner -- is not easy.
. Charles
]]>If pianoteq had a option justo to allow listen the sound of each string alone, this would help a lot to tuning real pianos, since in a real piano you need to tune each string, and most of the notes/keys have 3 strings with little slight diferente frequency.
]]>And if you want to practise pieces with fortepiano sounds that are more authentic for 18th and 19th century music you can play the digital with the kremsegg piano sounds!
]]>I don't think acoustics are becoming obselete- all the classical pianists play acoustic pianos in concerts.
]]>Hello,
i am new here and looking for some advise.
My son & I are learning to play the piano for 1 year now. I bought a digital Yamaha YDP 161 2nd hand that time. Because we still like it and our teacher told us it's better to invest in an acoustic piano, i started my search for an acoustic...
http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre...ost2344015
Then i heard of pianoteq... Would it work on my entry level YDP161, and could it be as good as a 2nd hand acoustic?
What do i need besides my DP and a laptop? a stereo receiver, some speakers,...?
I have a laptop, but without MIDI in connector, where should i put the MIDI cable that comes from my YDP161?Do you have links to common setup diagrams, what to connect to what, which cables to use, include home stereo-receiver & speakers?
Many Thanks, Johan
It's my opinion to forget about an accoustic piano, particularly at your skill level. If anything, I'd look for a better digital. I have two Chickering Grands, but prefer my Casio PX-150 which is really an entry level keyboard. There are many reasons, but in this day and age accoustics are largely obsolete. Too expensive, too heavy, too much maintenance. And if you only get some sort of smaller upright, you will really be wasting your money. They don't sound as good or play as well.
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