Modartt user forum - Most realistic touch under 1000$

Re: Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (Ross) — Sat, 03 Jan 2015 14:06:14 +0000

So, there are no silent touch below 1000$...

But what about more expensive models? Kawai VPC1 has key noise?

Re: Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (EdwardianPiano) — Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:53:17 +0000

My Casio px 100 has quite noisy key return also, but then so does my old circa 1910 acoustic piano. Many older pianos (fortepianos) of the c.18th/c.19th had noisy keys too, so I don't mind too much! ( My ideal piano would be one circa 1800).

Re: Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (Ross) — Thu, 25 Dec 2014 06:34:32 +0000

I bought es100 several weeks ago. It's good as I expected, except one drawback: keys produce too loud knocking noise when released to the initial position. This is a real problem when playing quite. I contacted Kawai support and they said it's OK. I was surprised because in reviews es100 had the most silent keys under 1000$..
May be it's true, because I haven't checked another pianos.

Re: Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (GRB) — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 21:26:51 +0000

I have a PX-150 and a PX-130. The piano sounds are better on the 150, but I like the harpsichord better on the 130. My dog leaves the room when I play the 150 harpsichord. As for the speaker sound, I like it. The key action is good enough. It's a little hard to do trills. I can not detect damper resonance on either. The 150 has a stupid "clunk" sound when the pedal is released. Totally worthless in my opinion. I like the 150 because it plays well and the instrument itself is light weight. Key bed could be improved, but Casio doesn't acknoledge or comment on any of my suggestions for improvement. If this piano had a Pianoteq voice it would be an unquestioned winner.

Re: Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (Ross) — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 13:35:33 +0000

Thank you!

Re: Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (AKM) — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 13:27:10 +0000

This is from e-mail from official international KAWAI support:

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We used to have latency problem about ES100.

However we solved this issue from production of October 2013.

We are not able to expose serial number information unfortunately.

Since we start to export this model from July 2014, all ES100

are already solved this issue as long as you purchase it through

authorized dealers in Russia.
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Re: Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (Ross) — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 13:17:28 +0000

AKM
I read that older es100 has a problem with sustain latency. if you are from Russia (you have a Russian name), how do you think: how much chances to buy buggy device in Russia. I also see that here in Russia es100 is cheaper than px150 and Yamaha p105. It's strange.

Re: Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (AKM) — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 11:46:04 +0000

@kalessein
...ok, I see ))

I'm quite happy with my recent purchase of CASIO PX-150, but now I think that if I read the forums better I'll go for KAWAI ES100. The main reason - much bigger distance to the keys pivot point (on PX-150 it's extremely hard to play passages even because of the short keys) and a continuous pedal right out of the box.

Re: Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (kalessin) — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 11:33:04 +0000

AKM wrote:

I did not have a chance to check it by myself. I just recently got a Casio PX-150 which have a tremendously "heavy" touch for my taste - but I actually like it, hope it is good for practice. They say ES100 is lighter, and have a continuous pedal, though 2 keyboard sensors vs. 3 in PX-150. I don't know how critical it is.

I have a PX-3 as a 'mobile' option, and after using the VPC1 for some time now, I find the Casio keybeds incredibly 'light'... how impressions can change.

Apart from that, I'd rather look for a used ES-7 instead of the ES-100. The -100 actually features the cheapest piano action Kawai currently has (AHA-IV), AFAIK. The ES-7 uses the RH-II, which is quite good.

Re: Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (AKM) — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 08:09:09 +0000

I did not have a chance to check it by myself. I just recently got a Casio PX-150 which have a tremendously "heavy" touch for my taste - but I actually like it, hope it is good for practice. They say ES100 is lighter, and have a continuous pedal, though 2 keyboard sensors vs. 3 in PX-150. I don't know how critical it is.

Re: Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (Ross) — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 07:59:22 +0000

AKM wrote:

You should check KAWAI ES100 if possible. Also check up this thread: http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre...ost2167459

Thank you. It's seems perfect by reviews. Is it more realistic in touch than Yamaha p150, Casio px150?

I want using digital piano with pianoteq very often. Does es100 has pretty linear velocity curve?

Re: Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (AKM) — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 22:26:47 +0000

You should check KAWAI ES100 if possible. Also check up this thread: http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre...ost2167459

Re: Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (paolopiano) — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:51:11 +0000

Numa Black - Studiologic

Most realistic touch under 1000$

null@example.com (Ross) — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:47:37 +0000

Hi. I'm looking for digital piano with most realistic keyboard and pretty linear velocity curve. 1000$ limit.

I've found Yamaha p105 and Casio px150, bit can't test it now.