Modartt user forum - Kawai MP11

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (mqbernardo) — Sun, 16 Jul 2023 21:39:25 +0000

I don't know if I'm doing this correctly, as my curves (for the MP11SE) look very different from the ones available for the MP11, but here are a couple:

Global Velocity = [0, 16, 34, 64, 93, 94, 119, 127; 0, 0, 24, 59, 97, 97, 127, 127]

Global Velocity = [0, 17, 40, 66, 91, 119, 127; 0, 0, 29, 63, 96, 127, 127]

cheers,
Miguel.

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (stanleykho) — Sat, 25 Mar 2023 06:15:42 +0000

I'm a new MP11SE user too.
Is it possible to share the velocity curve for it? thanks.

Stilli wrote:

NothanUmber wrote:
Stilli wrote:
Me too, are there no other MP11SE users here?
Not an MP 11 user (MP 8 here), but you can easily create your own curve with the Calibration wizard. First make sure that you chose the "normal" velocity curve on the MP11 (on MP8 this is "System"+"Menu up/down"+"Value up/down")
Then click on calibrate and follow the instructions. One thing that might help: Switch off the sound as it might be counter intuitive. Reason: E.g. when calibrating "normal" velocity and the note sounds too harsh for the force applied, one tends to play even more tender. Which has exactly the opposite effect than what is desired - the wizard thinks that the average force for "normal" velocity is actually very small for this keyboard and assigns an even higher harshness and volume to this velocity.
Thus it is best to play silent, not to look at the generated curve (so one isn't counterintuitively influenced) and just consistently play pianissimo, piano, normal, forte, fortissimo as mentioned in the instructions for a longer time, so the wizard can average well). This worked quite nicely for my MP8.
Thank you for the useful response.

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (Stilli) — Wed, 12 May 2021 16:35:06 +0000

NothanUmber wrote:

Stilli wrote:
muevc wrote:
Hi everyone,
has anyone made curves specifically for MP11SE instead of MP11?
I still struggle a lot with these curves on my MP11SE.
Me too, are there no other MP11SE users here?
Not an MP 11 user (MP 8 here), but you can easily create your own curve with the Calibration wizard. First make sure that you chose the "normal" velocity curve on the MP11 (on MP8 this is "System"+"Menu up/down"+"Value up/down")
Then click on calibrate and follow the instructions. One thing that might help: Switch off the sound as it might be counter intuitive. Reason: E.g. when calibrating "normal" velocity and the note sounds too harsh for the force applied, one tends to play even more tender. Which has exactly the opposite effect than what is desired - the wizard thinks that the average force for "normal" velocity is actually very small for this keyboard and assigns an even higher harshness and volume to this velocity.
Thus it is best to play silent, not to look at the generated curve (so one isn't counterintuitively influenced) and just consistently play pianissimo, piano, normal, forte, fortissimo as mentioned in the instructions for a longer time, so the wizard can average well). This worked quite nicely for my MP8.

Thank you for the useful response.

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (NothanUmber) — Wed, 12 May 2021 16:06:58 +0000

Stilli wrote:

muevc wrote:
Hi everyone,
has anyone made curves specifically for MP11SE instead of MP11?
I still struggle a lot with these curves on my MP11SE.
Me too, are there no other MP11SE users here?

Not an MP 11 user (MP 8 here), but you can easily create your own curve with the Calibration wizard. First make sure that you chose the "normal" velocity curve on the MP11 (on MP8 this is "System"+"Menu up/down"+"Value up/down")
Then click on calibrate and follow the instructions. One thing that might help: Switch off the sound as it might be counter intuitive. Reason: E.g. when calibrating "normal" velocity and the note sounds too harsh for the force applied, one tends to play even more tender. Which has exactly the opposite effect than what is desired - the wizard thinks that the average force for "normal" velocity is actually very small for this keyboard and assigns an even higher harshness and volume to this velocity.
Thus it is best to play silent, not to look at the generated curve (so one isn't counterintuitively influenced) and just consistently play pianissimo, piano, normal, forte, fortissimo as mentioned in the instructions for a longer time, so the wizard can average well). This worked quite nicely for my MP8.

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (Stilli) — Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:07:31 +0000

muevc wrote:

Hi everyone,
has anyone made curves specifically for MP11SE instead of MP11?
I still struggle a lot with these curves on my MP11SE.

Me too, are there no other MP11SE users here?

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (muevc) — Sat, 31 Oct 2020 21:45:44 +0000

Hi everyone,
has anyone made curves specifically for MP11SE instead of MP11?
I still struggle a lot with these curves on my MP11SE.

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (Qexl) — Fri, 29 Mar 2019 03:16:09 +0000

Thank you Nor, that's a great shape. It's definitely my preferred curve after a lot of testing. The numbers can be changed up for a brightness if wanted - the shape itself really does 'consolidate' a lot of curve tweaking for me - feels very much at home now.

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (Nor) — Sat, 23 Feb 2019 11:27:07 +0000

In the VPC curve presets there was one for MP11. Here it is, supposedly from the VPC editor for the MP11:
Velocity = [0, 3, 7, 12, 17, 23, 30, 36, 43, 49, 56, 63, 72, 79, 85, 93, 99, 104, 108, 112, 116, 120, 123, 127; 0, 6, 10, 13, 17, 21, 25, 30, 36, 41, 47, 54, 62, 69, 75, 82, 90, 96, 102, 107, 110, 112, 113, 114]

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (psterrett) — Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:01:30 +0000

Thanks for the settings, guys.

I am wondering if anyone has a setting for the MP11SE optical sustain pedal and does it differ from the MP11's electro-mechanical pedal unit?

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (Qexl) — Fri, 04 May 2018 06:23:05 +0000

Hausland's curve for MP11 is as good as I've been able to achieve in Pianoteq 6+ - this is perfect here, thank you!

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (scorpio) — Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:27:03 +0000

Has anyone calibrated their MP11 with Version 6? My curves different. Curious if anyone experienced something similar.

EDIT: After reviewing my data, my "new" curves are more like hausland's now. So maybe my data is a little outdated.
hausland, thank you for posting your calibration curves.

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (hausland) — Thu, 27 Jul 2017 03:12:25 +0000

Here are my current favourite settings:

Velocity = [0, 1, 30, 46, 81, 115, 127; 0, 0, 32, 65, 96, 121, 127]
Note-Off Velocity = [0, 1, 54, 92, 127; 0, 32, 96, 127, 127]
Sustain Velocity = [0, 10, 70, 117, 127; 0, 0, 61, 127, 127]
Aftertouch Velocity = [0, 127; 0, 0]

I also have scorpio's settings as an alternative preset to the above - also very nice.

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (scorpio) — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 21:57:18 +0000

Anyone else with an MP11 that has a velocity curve they would like to share?

Re: Kawai MP11

null@example.com (scorpio) — Sun, 02 Nov 2014 16:44:03 +0000

Here are my settings that I am currently using:

Velocity = [0, 34, 68, 96, 127; 0, 32, 64, 96, 127] OR Velocity = [0, 127; 0, 127]
Note-Off Velocity = [0, 1, 39, 90, 127; 0, 32, 96, 127, 127]
Sustain Velocity = [0, 10, 117, 127; 0, 0, 127, 127]
Aftertouch Velocity = [0, 127; 0, 0]

I was very happy to see that we had nearly identical Note-Off curves. I expect that my Velocity curve will be tweaked going forward.

Kawai MP11

null@example.com (Dr. Flieger) — Sun, 02 Nov 2014 14:04:00 +0000

Here are my settings for Kawai MP11 without touchcurve changes into the instrument:

Velocity = [0, 1, 24, 53, 100, 127; 0, 0, 32, 64, 96, 127]
Note-Off Velocity = [0, 1, 29, 93, 127; 0, 32, 96, 127, 127]
Sustain Velocity = [0, 10, 105, 117, 127; 0, 0, 64, 127, 127]
Aftertouch Velocity = [0, 127; 0, 0]