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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What do I miss from Standard if I'm not a tweaker?]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=934692#p934692</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>LKingston wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just wanted to be able to do two tweaks.&nbsp; To my ears, the highest notes in all the presets I&#039;ve tried ring out a little too long.&nbsp; I wanted to shorten just the highest notes with the impedance scaling.&nbsp; Second, I wanted to detune the double strings a little randomly.&nbsp; I believe some of the presets in the standard</p></blockquote></div><p>I agree with you the higher notes ring a little too long , so if i upgrade to Standard ill have the option to shorten the notes is that correct ?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2014 23:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What do I miss from Standard if I'm not a tweaker?]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=934599#p934599</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>about calibration: feel free to experiment without performing the calibration Pianoteq is proposing. On several occasions, I felt the same as you, so I just began with a flat curve then added just 1 or 2 points in the curve to adjust it to my taste. Done.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Luc Henrion)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What do I miss from Standard if I'm not a tweaker?]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=934597#p934597</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been lurking here and bought the upgrade to Standard just before the offer expired. I think I should reinforce what others have said. Even if you don&#039;t want to fiddle with a lot of parameters, two things are a great boon in Standard compared to Play.<br />First is the ability to move the microphones. With Play I had often felt a little &#039;lopsided&#039; playing and now I realize it is because in many piano models the microphones are set by default where a listener would listen - not where the pianist sits. Changing that is very easy in Standard and makes for an appreciably more realistic playing experience.<br />The second is the ability to choose tunings (temperaments) for old instruments. I&#039;ve read that Equal temperament didn&#039;t become standard until the C19th, so it isn&#039;t what C18th composers were expecting. It is great fun being able to explore this aspect.<br />At the same time I got the Kremsegg 2 collection. Mainly for the Broadwood - which is indeed absolutely wonderful. But the other 3 pianos are terrific too. Even though the base piano collection includes a Bechstein and a Pleyel, the ones in Kremsegg are far superior. And the Frenzel has a great sound too.<br />What swung me to upgrade was my wife reminding me how much I had not spent by not buying a wooden grand this past summer. Pianoteq offers so much for the money.<br />Cheers,<br /> Clive.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2014 05:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What do I miss from Standard if I'm not a tweaker?]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=934588#p934588</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>First feedback from a beginner piano player and beginner Pianoteq Standard user:</p><p>1. When using Stage I was always confused regarding microphones location. I was constantly afraid that I am somehow ruining the experience by selecting &quot;Binaural&quot; when default for that particular instrument was &quot;Stereophonic&quot;. Since I didn&#039;t hear that 3D sound very well I was simply confused as to what is happening. All confusion is gone with Standard - I can just click on &quot;microphone&quot; button and just learn what is happening.</p><p>So... I believe that Stage should also get &quot;microphone&quot; button, but simply *without* the ability to move mics around. Even if I was the only confused person in the world about that I think that it would still be useful as a great demo of the feature - people would be eager to try and relocate those mics.</p><p>2. I know I said in the title that I&#039;m not going to be a &quot;tweaker&quot;, but I just became one <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> What encouraged me to tweak settings were three things:<br /> * Introduction to Pianoteq 5 video (I wish I have seen it before... somehow Pianoteq software seems very simple, so I didn&#039;t feel like I needed to check out any documentation or tutorials - I wish someone told me that I will benefit it that much!)<br /> * I love Blanchet harpsichord. I started playing Bach pieces that I learn with it and it just made me appreciate alternative sounds.<br />* I was checking mics location on different instruments and I was puzzled when I found that D4 Binaural has that dummy head located on top of the piano, even beyond keybed. I thought that it should be located where the player&#039;s head is. So I just moved it to where I thought it should be and that was my first step. From there next steps are much easier. I started to tweak everything <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>Although I don&#039;t save my settings yet, I only experiment. It&#039;s probably silly but I am afraid that if I play with my mods it will somehow change my perception of what is a good piano sound <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>3. I only discovered calibration after I started with Standard. Whenever I calibrate it gives me less control, sound is too loud and less pleasant (sound is slightly different when you hit keys hard and that&#039;s what I hear all the time). I know it&#039;s not Pianoteq&#039;s fault - probably just me being beginner pianist and not having much control over my fingers (how light or hard I press the keys, what is appropriate amount of &quot;half pedal&quot;). Somehow as a beginner I&#039;m getting worse experience when calibrating than without it. Or maybe it&#039;s just me being used to flat curves (after 2-3 weeks of playing with Pianoteq)...</p><p>And thank you OrganoPleno for the idea - I always wanted to try those and just didn&#039;t realize it&#039;s now possible!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (kamil.t)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What do I miss from Standard if I'm not a tweaker?]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=934581#p934581</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kamil.t wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But I know for fact I will not be tweaking my pianos...</p><p>So for my use case - would I gain anything by going Standard?</p></blockquote></div><p>If you like to choose historic tunings for the historic instruments, then Standard is essential.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (OrganoPleno)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kamil.t wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Coldsalmon, that was a great point - I wouldn&#039;t thought about it before!</p><p>And btw, I am now a happy owner of a Standard license - thank you everyone!</p></blockquote></div><p>Congrats, and enjoy!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Coldsalmon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 02:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What do I miss from Standard if I'm not a tweaker?]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=934564#p934564</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the Standard club! <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (EvilDragon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kamil.t wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Coldsalmon, that was a great point - I wouldn&#039;t thought about it before!</p><p>And btw, I am now a happy owner of a Standard license - thank you everyone!</p></blockquote></div><p>Please keep us posted as to your experience with the Standard license.&nbsp; </p><p>Cheers,<br />Joe</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2014 14:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Coldsalmon, that was a great point - I wouldn&#039;t thought about it before!</p><p>And btw, I am now a happy owner of a Standard license - thank you everyone!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (kamil.t)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=934555#p934555</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I upgraded from Play (now called Stage) to Standard to get the Sound Recording output. I prefer it, even through headphones, for most presets. &quot;Sound Recording&quot; is not the same as &quot;Stereophonic,&quot; see this post:</p><p><a href="http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=2996">http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=2996</a></p><p>&quot;Actually, the stereophonic output is included in Pianoteq since version 3 mainly to ensure compatibility with the previous instruments that were not equipped with the possibility to place microphones around the instrument (versions 1 and 2). It is redundant with the &quot;Sound Recording&quot; output mode where you can place yourself the microphones.&quot;</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Coldsalmon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What do I miss from Standard if I'm not a tweaker?]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=934538#p934538</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m still not really convinced that I will get any better experience of Standard, but you guys were convincing enough for me to give it a shot <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> That and the fact that I dislike the very idea of sampled pianos, so why not just support company that enables us to get into the future a little bit faster. Thanks!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (kamil.t)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What do I miss from Standard if I'm not a tweaker?]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=934530#p934530</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I got the standard version along with a free extra piano model, then got the pro version with the upgrade and got a free extra model again.&nbsp; The cost of the standard version plus the upgrade to pro is ten dollars less than getting the pro version directly.&nbsp; Add that to getting a second model pack when you do the upgrade, and getting standard first then upgrading is a no-brainer.</p><p>Why did I want the pro version over the standard?&nbsp; Personally, I just wanted to be able to do two tweaks.&nbsp; To my ears, the highest notes in all the presets I&#039;ve tried ring out a little too long.&nbsp; I wanted to shorten just the highest notes with the impedance scaling.&nbsp; Second, I wanted to detune the double strings a little randomly.&nbsp; I believe some of the presets in the standard version already do this, but I wanted that control.&nbsp; When you add &quot;age&quot; to the models it sort of does this, but it also throws some notes a little out of tune and I didn&#039;t want to do that.</p><p>Aside from those two adjustments, the standard version would have really been fine.&nbsp; Getting those two adjustments plus another model pack is why I immediately upgraded my new standard version to pro.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=934518#p934518</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Personally, the microphone flexibility was already enough for me to pass on the Stage edition. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (kalessin)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=934517#p934517</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>you will also be able to use all presets made by the Pianoteq community, and there are a lot of beautiful ones.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Luc Henrion)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=934515#p934515</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kamil.t wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So for my use case - would I gain anything by going Standard? Would I be able to somehow tweak mics to fell the sound better (on my headphones)?</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, you will be able to tweak the microphones and send each mic to a separate plugin output (or your surround system!). You will also be able to change mic types as well.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>kamil.t wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>BTW, I&#039;m not sure what is currently happening when I pick the piano that is &quot;Stereo&quot; by default and switch it to &quot;Binaural&quot; - it doesn&#039;t really feel like if I&#039;m sitting in front of a piano, so what is it? Also, does this feeling would improve if I would go Standard?</p></blockquote></div><p>Binaural mode is specifically designed for use with headphones. It&#039;s using <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-related_transfer_function">HRTF</a> and modeling dummy head recording method.</p><br /><p>I would definitely suggest to go Standard. It&#039;s IMHO a lot more useful than Stage. And what do you know, perhaps you will start tweaking stuff and discover entirely new sounds!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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