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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Casio PX-5S and expression pedal]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>delt wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>delt wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>A half-damper pedal is essentially an expression pedal that springs back up when you release it.</p></blockquote></div><p>This expression assign trick has worked on several brands of keyboards that i know of (my m-audio, roland, and a few others)...</p><p>And, if the polarity is wrong, in Pianoteq you can reverse it: options -&gt; midi, controller 64 (sustain pedal) just swap the values for &quot;range&quot; -- instead of going from 0.00 to 1.00, make it go from 1.00 to 0.00 and the operation of the pedal will be reversed.</p><br /><p>/* edit */ I just tested the Roland DP-10 sustain pedal on my guitar rig, and as expected, values go from 0% (pedal released) to 100% (pedal fully pressed down) just like a normal expression pedal. So it&#039;s pretty much guaranteed that a half-damper pedal will work with your keyboard if it has an expression pedal jack - at least with pianoteq:</p><p>&nbsp; - Assign the expression jack&#039;s CC to 64.<br />&nbsp; * Worst-case scenario for CC: it&#039;s stuck at 11 on your Casio, so you configure Pianoteq (or other piano software) to use CC#11 as sustain pedal.</p><p>&nbsp; - It should be of the right polarity out-of-the-box.<br />&nbsp; * Worst-case scenario for polarity: As described above, you just invert it in Pianoteq, or other piano software.</p><p>(if a piano software doesn&#039;t let you configure CC and polarity for pedals, you probably shouldn&#039;t buy it <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i> )</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you, nice to hear that it should be possible. I&#039;ll try in a store, in the meanwhile I asked also on casiomusicforums.com.</p><p>Bye,</p><p>Massimo</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-07-26T20:36:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Casio PX-5S and expression pedal]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>delt wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>A half-damper pedal is essentially an expression pedal that springs back up when you release it.</p></blockquote></div><p>This expression assign trick has worked on several brands of keyboards that i know of (my m-audio, roland, and a few others)...</p><p>And, if the polarity is wrong, in Pianoteq you can reverse it: options -&gt; midi, controller 64 (sustain pedal) just swap the values for &quot;range&quot; -- instead of going from 0.00 to 1.00, make it go from 1.00 to 0.00 and the operation of the pedal will be reversed.</p><br /><p>/* edit */ I just tested the Roland DP-10 sustain pedal on my guitar rig, and as expected, values go from 0% (pedal released) to 100% (pedal fully pressed down) just like a normal expression pedal. So it&#039;s pretty much guaranteed that a half-damper pedal will work with your keyboard if it has an expression pedal jack - at least with pianoteq:</p><p>&nbsp; - Assign the expression jack&#039;s CC to 64.<br />&nbsp; * Worst-case scenario for CC: it&#039;s stuck at 11 on your Casio, so you configure Pianoteq (or other piano software) to use CC#11 as sustain pedal.</p><p>&nbsp; - It should be of the right polarity out-of-the-box.<br />&nbsp; * Worst-case scenario for polarity: As described above, you just invert it in Pianoteq, or other piano software.</p><p>(if a piano software doesn&#039;t let you configure CC and polarity for pedals, you probably shouldn&#039;t buy it <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i> )</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-07-26T19:31:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Casio PX-5S and expression pedal]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Pedal Polarity:&nbsp; If you use ordinary switch on/off type pedals and the pedal polarity is wrong, you may not be aware that the designers of some keyboards (at least the Kurzweil folks to it . . they&#039;re pretty savvy) provide &quot;smart jacks&quot; on the back of the keyboards.&nbsp; You&#039;re pedal jacks may be smarter than you think.&nbsp; </p><p>If the pedal polarity is wrong . . just hold the sustain pedal down while turning on the keyboard power button.&nbsp; After the key board is on and functioning,&nbsp; let the pedal up . .&nbsp; the polarity of the pedal will have toggled to your desired way.&nbsp; &nbsp;Quite simple.</p><p>Lanny</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-07-26T17:32:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well polarity should matter. I would get a Roland pedal which I believe is the same polarity as Casio.</p><p>As far a definitive answer to your question, I would pose it on casiomusicforums.com where they have some Casio representatives popping in. </p><p>Good luck and let us know.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-07-26T13:56:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Casio PX-5S and expression pedal]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>beakybird wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think that Yamaha and Casio damper pedals have the opposite polarity. You might want to research that. You don&#039;t want the notes sustaining when the pedal is up.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hi 4beakybirdToday, I don&#039;t want to use the Casio damper pedal IN: I would like to connect a (continuous) sustain pedal to the expression IN... </p><p>Maybe I should find a store with a PX-5s available and try...</p><p>Bye,</p><p>Massimo</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-07-26T12:35:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think that Yamaha and Casio damper pedals have the opposite polarity. You might want to research that. You don&#039;t want the notes sustaining when the pedal is up.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-07-26T05:35:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>delt wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It should work fine. That&#039;s how i use it on my M-audio oxygen88. (it&#039;s CC#64 btw) A half-damper pedal is essentially an expression pedal that springs back up when you release it. The connector should be a TRS 1/4 inch jack, the kind with tip, ring, and sleeve - like the Yamaha FC3 or the Roland DP-10.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you delt, I mentioned CC11 because it is expression, so it is what I expect to get from the Casio MIDI OUT if I plug a half-damper pedal into the expression pedal input. </p><p>But it is easy to configure Pianoteq to treat CC#11 messages like sustain (CC#64) so that&#039;s not really an issue.<br />The issue is to understand if sustain pedals like FC3 or DP-10 are electronically compatible with expression controllers, like Yamaha FC7, and if they work with the Casio.</p><p>Bye,</p><p>Massimo</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-07-25T22:54:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It should work fine. That&#039;s how i use it on my M-audio oxygen88. (it&#039;s CC#64 btw) A half-damper pedal is essentially an expression pedal that springs back up when you release it. The connector should be a TRS 1/4 inch jack, the kind with tip, ring, and sleeve - like the Yamaha FC3 or the Roland DP-10.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-07-25T21:21:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; I like this piano very much, the only problem is that it doesn&#039;t support continuous sustain pedals, but only on-off values.</p><p>My question is: it seems that it is possible to use some expression pedal (for wah wah, modulation volume and so on). </p><p>Is it possible also:</p><p>1) I connect a pedal like the Yamaha FC3&nbsp; (<a href="http://usa.yamaha.com/products/music-production/accessories/footpedals/fc3/?mode=model">http://usa.yamaha.com/products/music-pr...mode=model</a>) to the expression pedal input and <br />2) configure Pianoteq to use the midi messages (MIDI CC 11 probably) as continuous sustain?</p><p>I&#039;m sure it is possible to do 2) but I&#039;m not sure that the PX-5S and the FC3 (or similar) can work together... <br />Has someone tried something similar, even with a different pedal?</p><p>Thank you for reading sorry for my English! :-)</p><p>Massimo</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-07-25T21:07:55Z</updated>
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