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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Key dip]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>delt wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> ...anyway, just wanted to share this <i class="far fa-smile-beam smiley"></i> what&#039;s the key dip on your keyboard? acoustic piano if you have one? Where is this measured exactly along the length of the key?</p></blockquote></div><p>On Doepfer PK88 GH key dip is 11.3mm. In comparison, key dip of Fatar TP/10MDS keybed in an 17 years old Korg EC510 is 10mm.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[DorinD]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-25T08:26:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Key dip]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>delt wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>...anyway, just wanted to share this <i class="far fa-smile-beam smiley"></i> what&#039;s the key dip on your keyboard? acoustic piano if you have one? Where is this measured exactly along the length of the key?</p></blockquote></div><p>on my a few years old Kawai ES3 the key dip is 11 mm, measured with a caliper on the front at every c-key.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[groovy]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-12T07:30:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Key dip]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this is a VERY important feature of a keyboard. It completely changes the way you are playing. Some pianoforte&#039;s depth were very, very small (much less than 1 centimeter) compared to contemporary grands, for example. My own (german made) piano has 2 mm more depth than the (french made) piano of a friend and we don&#039;t like each other&#039;s piano !<br />I know that some piano makers are working on an adjustable keyboard depth, but it doesn&#039;t seem to be available right now. I&#039;ll let you, know, promised !</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Luc Henrion]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-11T19:40:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Key dip]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A few days ago, looking at <a href="http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1125698/optimum%20key%20dip?.html">this thread</a> on pianoworld.com, i measured the key dip on my Oxygen 88 with a caliper and it was quite deep compared to the measures provided on that page, at just under 13mm around the tip of the keys!! No wonder my hands always felt &quot;buried&quot; in the keys compared to playing on an acoustic piano!</p><p>So, i took it apart, removed all the keys, and added two extra strips of felt (<a href="http://www.ebay.ca/itm/110483429802">bought on ebay</a>) where the white keys and the black keys rest when pressed down, reducing the key dip by about 1.3mm (see <a href="http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?pid=933081#p933081">this post</a> for my first dablling with this idea, using a length of speaker wire, didn&#039;t work that great) .... Amazing how such a small distance makes a HUGE difference in the feel of the keyboard, it&#039;s like a whole different instrument! Feels much more similar to a real piano, and much less &quot;sluggish&quot;!! It also helps a bit with quick single-note repetition. (this keyboard has 2 sensors per key)</p><p>Because of how the sensors are made, this is pretty much the maximum i could go without having to add extra shim to the sensors on all the keys and redo the entire calibration, like i did several months ago. I already had to add extra shim (and re-caliabrate) just a few notes that were hard to sound &quot;ppp&quot; witout pressing a bit stronger into the felt, but now it just plays awesome. It&#039;s the Oxygen 88 on steroids <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i> <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p><p>...anyway, just wanted to share this <i class="far fa-smile-beam smiley"></i> what&#039;s the key dip on your keyboard? acoustic piano if you have one? Where is this measured exactly along the length of the key?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[delt]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-11T18:49:59Z</updated>
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