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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Getting a pre-1840s piano sound (!)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve always liked the sound of the Walter in any case!</p><p>It says in the book I was reading what Field&#039;s fave piano manufacturer was, I&#039;ll need to dig out the name!</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Do not know if it agrees with Field, but I can highly recommend the Walter (historically close enough)</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-03-13T18:21:22Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes but I&#039;ve been too busy with work to make much music recently <i class="far fa-frown smiley"></i><br />but whilst commuting I&#039;ve been getting into early 19th century Irish pianist John Field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Field_%28composer%29 ) whose claim to fame is generally that he &quot;invented the nocturne&quot;</p><p>I was reading some books on him, and they make the point that pianos in Field&#039;s day sounded and behaved quite different to modern ones: they had wooden frames (not iron), and had a different tone and the sustain pedal didn&#039;t ring for long etc.<br />(Bold show-offs such as Liszt et al apparently pushed piano manufacturers into the kind of pianos we have today).</p><p>Apparently if you try playing a Field Nocturne from the sheet music as written today, you&#039;ll get quite a different sound to what you&#039;d have heard in 1830 or whenever...<br />if you use the sustain pedal to the extent Field did, you&#039;ll generally end up with blurred mush, and generally the sound will be much brighter and more brittle than the mellower tone he&#039;d have got.</p><p>Obviously Pianoteq is ideal for experimenting with getting these older timbres, so I wondered if anyone had tried making presets for this kind of thing? And/or which of the historical KiVir pianos would be a good starting place?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-03-08T10:35:11Z</updated>
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