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Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (sigasa) — Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:20:16 +0000

AudioFront triple pedal USB interface with Yamaha's new version pedals (1 X switch version for Una Cords and 1 X continuous for half pedalling). The new pedals are identifiable as they are more rubbery rather than plastic. And they are quieter too!

I also have a Roland triple pedal which also works very well with the AudioFront interface. This Roland triple pedal would serve your purpose nutela and it is very accurate and well built (not glitchy).

https://www.roland.com/us/products/rpu-3/

https://www.audiofront.net/MIDIExpression.php

Warmest regards,

Chris

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (helsinki) — Thu, 18 Mar 2021 13:43:47 +0000

See: https://beatbars.com/en/home.html

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (extonjaez) — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:54:04 +0000

How with a controller midi hardware change preset A to preset B (and preset B to preset A) ?
Thanks

PS
because Right Click give me a "help" and not Assign midi Control

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (doug) — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:01:00 +0000

My old CME pedal finally failed completely. So I bought another. (shrugs) That one is still working fine. For now. I use the USB out straight into my laptop.

And yes, being able to partial-pedal is wonderful.

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (nutela) — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 12:02:01 +0000

Well I'd actually prefer to know if the keyboard accepts continous signals as well....

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (aandrmusic) — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 11:45:12 +0000

If you are in doubt about what the pedal(s) you have actually are and DO you could monitor them with Midi-ox.
You could probably "train" with it too, to find where 1/4 1/2, 3/4 etc actually ARE (and feel to be).

This DOES work under Vista, although I think their only claim is XP and Win-2000.

Midi Yoke is useful too.

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (nutela) — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 06:54:25 +0000

Yeah unrealistic I know now... bought a Roland DP-10 and found out that my M-Audio sustain inputs (yes 2!) _both_ use only on/off! Of course the manual doesn't mention _any_ word about _that_. So I'm using the expression input which works fine 0,1,2...126,127

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (nutela) — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:37:03 +0000

I am looking for a dynamic pedal, 3 or 4 in a row of them to be exact, that would suffice me.

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (teamsterjim) — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:38:19 +0000

Well comprimises are made if one is trying to get an electronic instrument to sound and feel like a real instrument.
It's a never ending chase and eventually you just get the sound/feel you like and be done with it.
Half pedalling gets talked about but I played recitals and classical the first 18 years of my life and never came across that techniquee once.
I seriously doubt anyone here is a Concert Pianist either, so no need to pose.
The MIDI Solutions F8 will do whatever you want it to do using expression pedals, footswitch pedals, ribbon controllers, joysticks, and also add extra controls.
I perform live and use footswitch pedals to change my keyswitched articulations because 2 hands are required at my gigs.
I also stack footswitches on top of sustain pedals for Harmonic pedalling or sostenuto when I need low end drones or mid range chords during ragtime/Orleans style Piano playing.
If you are serious about using pedals in a live format or even for better recordings the F8 will do whatever you want.
A regular sustain pedal can have a footswitch velcroed to the top so one foot can use the ball of your foot for harmonic or sostenuto, and your heel can do sustain, or even on/off portamento, pretty much whatever works best.
Also an expression pedal with a footswitch on top is used for swelling a group of drawbars, and the Rotary cabinet speed is the footswitch.
Pulling back puts the drawbars at the first ( collapsed ) setting, then pushing forward swells them along w/ velocity curves so each drawbar seperately goes to the exact destination, not just open or closed. Then the ball of your foot is to change rotary speeds.
At any rate this is what you'll see on any touring rig or live rig where one must cover strings, horns and several other instruments.
A Kurzweil Expressionmate is another crucial piece of kit. Not the cheap piece of junk they sell now, but the older one w/ the Controller desktop module. I do bi directional glides, trigger arpeggios, etc. It has mulitple zones.
I use the worthless M Audio KS88's because they have fast accurate MIDI and excessive controls. Sure the action sucks just like every other controller out there. None of them are any good IMHO. FP40 Wood by Fatar is heavy, but who cares...? It still is far from a real Piano action so I don't waste time looking for the " perfect " action. It doesn't exist.
Besides from playing classical and doing many recitals I learned to play on Pianos I never had a a chance to warm up on. That's what happens to perfromers. You just do it, and use whatever hand your dealt.
Does anyone honestly think Concert Pianists drag around a 9 foot Steinway....? NOT. They do get a chance to warm up though as they are famous, but they play whatever is at that particular Hall.
You never hear them whine about anything other than the tuning.....WHy? Because they actually play the Piano and wouldn't touch some cheezy sequencer or Roland VPiano, what a joke of a Piano.
At the end of the day you either make music or excuses.
But if you're serious about pedalling you must realize these 40 dollar Chinese toys are junk and they suck. Get the F8 like they use on the big jobs. It will do whatever you want.
Perfect for PianoTeq's Model. PTeq actuallay feels more like a Piano than any Chiggabyte sample Library, so treat it with respect and break into the vault and buy the right tools. Otherwise you will keep buying cheap pieces of - and be frustrated everytine you play.
Sorry for seeming like a jerk, but everytime I visit a forum I remember the PITA crap I went through everytime I bought another toy or junk controller. They are all pieces of crap so just make it happen with the F8 and be done with it.

http://forums.planetz.com/viewtopic.php...t&sd=a

Here's a view of the drawbar stack, it's a synth forum so I don't have the sus/sos/harmonic stack, but you'll get the idea.
And try and get your hands on an Expressionmate, the old one. It's so easy to control a chromatic upwards arpeggio by holding a pedal and dragging a finger. There's so many MIDI tricks out there and to not use them is like going to a gunfight with a knife.

CiaoMein.

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (moshuajusic) — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:27:07 +0000

^ Epic bump! LOL

Anyway... http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre...cs/697807/

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (nutela) — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:31:40 +0000

Did you read this: http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic...d=551#p551 ? (Fatar VFP3 3-pedals)

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (obiwan) — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:15:04 +0000

Thanks for the link - very useful!

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (polllymorphic) — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:00:41 +0000

As I posted on another thread, I had to flash program new firmware into my GPP-3 via the USB connection to get it to work reliably - which it does now. Here's a related thread on another forum: http://www.cme-pro.com/forum/viewthread...a=page%3D1

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (obiwan) — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:37:42 +0000

feline1 wrote:

Bah! CME are cheap chinese crap

Oh dear... After my failed soldering attempt on my existing sustain pedal, I finally took the plunge and ordered the CME pedal.

First impressions: - It's heavy, so it won't move around when playing. - Great!

The construction is fairly robust and put together well, so it looks and feels the business. So far, so good...

Then we get onto the functionality...

I plugged it in, and turned it on, and - nothing! - I messed around with it for about 20 mins, to discover the on/off switch is wired the wrong way around. - Ie 'on' is 'off' and vice versa! - I therefore put it in the 'off' position and tried the pedals. The sustain seemed to work ok, but the other two pedals seemed to be intermittent. - So I tried resetting the unit as described in the manual by kneeling on all 3 pedals simultaneously (not very comfortable - they really should provide shin pads in the box for performing this manoeuvre). It still seemed to not work right, so tried reversing the polarity of the offending pedals by pressing them first, then manually clicking the pedals in the pianoteq software to return them to rest. - Hurrah! - This seemed to do the trick, and they all finally work as expected.

I then had a couple of hours of trouble-free playing.

Hopefully the initial setup was just a glitch, and it should now work without any further intervention. - I guess only time will tell...

Re: MIDI controller hardware & pedals...

null@example.com (feline1) — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:35:17 +0000

Bah! CME are cheap chinese crap
I have the CME UF7 master keyboard, and it has similar "quirks" (eg the USB midi connection has never worked)

I wish a decent manufacturer would produce products with the same functionality though!
(e.g. the UF7 has a midi breath controller input, not something I've found anywhere else since the Yamaha DX7!)