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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: pedal-pointz ..noobus question #2]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Can&#039;t help from experience, Kawai-dedicatee here, and their pedals don&#039;t swap-in, even among their own KBs.</p><p>But on another thread delt recommends Roland DP-10 in response to your own question. So research it, and if it looks sound for most of your purps, save up, meantime living with the wah-pedal.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[custral]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[pedal-pointz ..noobus question #2]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yah, have tried 5 pedal configs.&nbsp; Using On Stage Gear pedal, m- audio sp-2, and yamaha fc7. Into the impulse from novation. Latter is da only satisfactory one, fc7, but not really. Reason is it aint a pedal, in the keyboard sense, but a wah wah style foot controller. (Spring mechanism returns a piano style pedal - not so fc7)</p><p>M-audio and On Stage Gear models identical basically. M- audio is shinier and seems better constructed but is functionally equivelent. The two pedals have polarity switches (somehow this is not critical since i even may enjoy playing inverted polarity, undamped until pedal engaged.)</p><p>The novation, as far as i can tell, is not the issue. Though it only has on-off circuitry in its pedal jack, the expression jack is continuous cc style. Heres where the trouble with the m-audio style gear lies. The mechanism is not realtime but somehow lags until the pedal stroke is at extremes. There is a graduated response, but not while transversing the span. Its afterwards that the data is spit out. </p><p>Is this desired for you keyboardists? </p><p>Please let me know if u visualize this latent response in your correctly functioning dedicated piano controller systems (or piecemeal ones if your like me on a budget. I&#039;m sure this is useful to this community).</p><p>(Also, side issue,&nbsp; these two afforementioned piano style pedals only output from about cc-64 0 through 46, not thru to 127, which is a concern, but there is no gradual real time data so its moot).</p><p>The upshot is my two piano style pedals do exhibit a latent narrow burst of cc value change. But it is so near-instantaneous as to abruptly cut off the notes. No diligence or nuance on my part changes the abrupt nature of cutoff and it is identical sounding to an on-off.</p><p>It do slightly suck for me.</p><p>Whereas with my Yamaha wah style i get real time nice gradual signal, so i get a dampening briefly; notes aren&#039;t so abruptly dampened. </p><p>Difficulty with the fc7 is simply that the pedal is too frictiony to finesse between full pedal and half pedal.</p><p>Ok, so please please PLEASE let me know if yamaha fc3 is giving out real time gradually updating data, cuz a piano style pedal would be better.&nbsp; Or any other pedal that may work in my 1/4 inch expression jack of my impulse keyboard. </p><p>As ALWAYS, any help is greatly valued.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-03T05:56:41Z</updated>
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