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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What's wrong with me? (D4 vs. Blüthner musings)]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>duggadugdug wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Another FXP I like is &quot;D4 Jazz Highly Percussive&quot; by jprykiel</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, it&#039;s really good and the audio demo is very so good, that&#039;s Jean-Philippe Rykiel marvelous keyboardist, we can have confidence. I think it&#039;s my new preset piano for the live performance now.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What's wrong with me? (D4 vs. Blüthner musings)]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MGZ wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Duggadugdug,</p><p>I&#039;m diggadigging your preset :-)</p><p>Enjoying the dynamic 3 mic for d4&nbsp; a lot indeed. Next to the daily practice , its&#039; the one I will use. Thanks and keep up the good work.</p></blockquote></div><p>You&#039;re very welcome, MGZ.&nbsp; And thanks for the kind words.</p><p>Another FXP I like is &quot;D4 Jazz Highly Percussive&quot; by jprykiel</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What's wrong with me? (D4 vs. Blüthner musings)]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Duggadugdug,</p><p>I&#039;m diggadigging your preset :-)</p><p>Enjoying the dynamic 3 mic for d4&nbsp; a lot indeed. Next to the daily practice , its&#039; the one I will use. Thanks and keep up the good work.</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>duggadugdug wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>While there is always a large amount of subjectivity involved, particularly in aesthetic preferences, I wonder what I am missing: Many folks rave (positively) about the Blüthner add-on, which I own and play happily enough. But I far, far prefer the D4, which has a sonic immediacy that better mimics the sound and feel of playing an actual grand.&nbsp; Even extensively tweaked to my liking, there is a certain flatness or deadness to some ranges of the Blüthner keyboard when compared to the D4.&nbsp; Perhaps I will happen upon a Blüthner preset that opens up new audio horizons and inspires greater affection, but for the moment nothing approaches the love I feel for my tweaked D4.</p><p>And speaking of tweaked pre-sets, I&#039;m glad a lot of you have enjoyed the &quot;Dynamic Jazz 3-mic&quot; fxp, which is currently my go-to piano.&nbsp; With my good studio headphones and closed eyes, I feel that I&#039;m playing a grand piano that I could never afford, while sitting at my desktop studio.&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; Thank you Modartt!</p><p>I&#039;ve tried to find a combination of settings that I like equally well for the Blüthner.&nbsp; The &quot;Dynamic Blüthner&quot; is the best I&#039;ve hit on so far and -- while I like it -- it&#039;s still a distant second place.&nbsp; (And the demo MP3 is atrocious; I need to play and post something more polished.)</p><p>Also, while working with fxp modifications, I keep hitting on distracting audio artifacts on the Blüthner G right above middle C.&nbsp; Has anyone else noticed a distracting abundance of overtones (if that is the right word) on that note?</p><p>Thanks to all for their contributions to this forum and the FXP Corner, which I enjoy a lot.</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 22:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What's wrong with me? (D4 vs. Blüthner musings)]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=928347#p928347</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I like both, each has its own &quot;personality&quot; ...i find the D4 has a more delicate sound, whereas the Blüthner sounds more &quot;majestic&quot; in a certain way - though i wish it had more sustain in the higher notes.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What's wrong with me? (D4 vs. Blüthner musings)]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=928346#p928346</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Good points, all, Joe.&nbsp; I agree completely with your observations about the profound versatility of Pianoteq compared to sample-based instruments.&nbsp; The continuous response across the full range of midi data is wonderful -- 128 &quot;sample layers&quot; beat 16 (or 4, or 1) any day!</p><p>Thinking about it, you are also correct in identifying bench vs. piano-side perspectives as being at the crux of my preference.&nbsp; I suppose that I tend to prefer a preset with the sonic immediacy that one gets while sitting and playing an acoustic piano.&nbsp; But yes, many of the other presets are remarkably good representations of what you&#039;d get with a well mic-ed piano in a studio or a nice, ambient hall, and might be preferable for purposes of, for example, recording a classical piece.</p><p>@Beto: Yes, you are right -- it does largely depend on a preference for the sound &quot;color&quot; of one piano/brand over another.&nbsp; I&#039;ve tried all of the Blüthner presets, and have spent a fair amount of time tweaking the parameters.&nbsp; It is a fine piano, just not my favorite.&nbsp; While the slightly &quot;buzzy&quot; bass notes can be interesting and the treble notes are very vibrant, I find the mid-range to be &quot;flatter&quot; (in terms of complexity, not pitch) as compared to my favorite D4 FXP.&nbsp; Because it really comes down to preference, my original topic (&quot;What&#039;s wrong with me?&quot;) was intended as a joke.&nbsp; Vive la différence!</p><p>And speaking of Blüthner parameter tweaking, one of the things I found that I liked (in the &quot;Dynamic Blüthner&quot; fxp) was adding a single, very quick (10 ms) mallet bounce.&nbsp; While it&#039;s so close in time that it isn&#039;t perceptible as a separate impulse, it &quot;fattens&quot; the sound of the hammer strike.&nbsp; While for some purposes it might decrease the tight precision of the sound, I like the punch that it adds.&nbsp; You can toggle that parameter on and off and see what you think.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: What's wrong with me? (D4 vs. Blüthner musings)]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you concerns about the Blüthner it&#039;s just the own characteristics of such brand.</p><p>Even prime real pianos have considerable diferences from one brand to anothe,r that can interefear a lot in a particular taste.</p><br /><p>What settings have you tried?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=928335#p928335</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hello DDD,</p><p>Please feel free to use whichever piano suits your playing style and touch.</p><p>I happen to enjoy using the Blüthner Concert Recording AB preset, but that&#039;s just me.&nbsp; In reality, it doesn&#039;t matter which brand name of piano I happen to use; rather, I choose the one(s) that have the most playability for my own playing style and touch.</p><p>Some people enjoy the emulation of the piano as you sit at the bench, whereas I enjoy the sound of the piano as it is heard from sitting at the side of the instrument.&nbsp; True, this isn&#039;t what one hears when playing the piano, but I still like the side perspective, just the same.</p><p>Other people may argue that one given piano preset sounds too dry, or too wet, or too ... whatever.&nbsp; That&#039;s the beauty of being able to select from any number of instruments, and from within their vast array of presets -- and then to go in and make further adjustments to your own liking.</p><p>One of the faults I have found with the sampled piano libraries (EWQL and Synthogy) was that I had to basically be happy with whatever perspective the software manufacturer thought was in my best interest.&nbsp; Two of the things that have bothered me were the tuning (or lack of tuning on a given note in a certain note-on velocity range, and good tuning at lesser and greater velocities for the same note!); the other problem I had to deal with was the sometimes highly differing sounds in the same note, when I would pass from, say, 85 and below note-on velocity, and then getting slammed when the note-on velocity for the same note was 86.</p><p>Enough of my rambling.</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Joe</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 02:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=928332#p928332</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>While there is always a large amount of subjectivity involved, particularly in aesthetic preferences, I wonder what I am missing: Many folks rave (positively) about the Blüthner add-on, which I own and play happily enough. But I far, far prefer the D4, which has a sonic immediacy that better mimics the sound and feel of playing an actual grand.&nbsp; Even extensively tweaked to my liking, there is a certain flatness or deadness to some ranges of the Blüthner keyboard when compared to the D4.&nbsp; Perhaps I will happen upon a Blüthner preset that opens up new audio horizons and inspires greater affection, but for the moment nothing approaches the love I feel for my tweaked D4.</p><p>And speaking of tweaked pre-sets, I&#039;m glad a lot of you have enjoyed the &quot;Dynamic Jazz 3-mic&quot; fxp, which is currently my go-to piano.&nbsp; With my good studio headphones and closed eyes, I feel that I&#039;m playing a grand piano that I could never afford, while sitting at my desktop studio.&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; Thank you Modartt!</p><p>I&#039;ve tried to find a combination of settings that I like equally well for the Blüthner.&nbsp; The &quot;Dynamic Blüthner&quot; is the best I&#039;ve hit on so far and -- while I like it -- it&#039;s still a distant second place.&nbsp; (And the demo MP3 is atrocious; I need to play and post something more polished.)</p><p>Also, while working with fxp modifications, I keep hitting on distracting audio artifacts on the Blüthner G right above middle C.&nbsp; Has anyone else noticed a distracting abundance of overtones (if that is the right word) on that note?</p><p>Thanks to all for their contributions to this forum and the FXP Corner, which I enjoy a lot.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 22:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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