But, I did that on my acoustic guitar. You have the same effect there, some tonal change going on dependent on where you pick the string. And while the effect sounds very similar in Pianoteq, there is still something odd to it, something artificial.
I don't know the details of the modeling, but I hope there is something that can be tweaked about this.
]]>While playing around with parameters I found another source of the something in Pianoteqs sound that bothers me, maybe THE source of it: the strike point!
If I touch that and move it around slowly, I constantly think "nah.... nah.... nah.... not yet.... nah.... not either... nah... ". I am trying to find the right spot. But then after a minute or so, I tried the whole range and still there is no setting that I like. Everything sounds like a notch filter or comb filter or something the like, that sounds odd to me.
This effect gets especially noticeable when you only use one microphone, mono sound.
So, maybe Philippe can say something about this feature? Is it some kind of overtone modelling, or is it really just a filter? Either way, I think here may be potential for improvement.
]]>Or plain make a project of living in the country. Raise wheat or corn. Freshwater lobsters. Frogs. Bees. Hm, noise, perhaps not.
]]>I spent some time eq'ing today. Voxengo makes a great eq. Today i de-waxed my ears w peroxide too. Boy what a difference. As far as what your experiencing, are u using a studio with carpeted walls or other enhancements & is it pristine and quiet. If so you may be dealing with natural mental adaptation which is helpful.
On anothrt note ears are a part of the mind and perceptual phenomena that can be relaxed or attuned. If you work, for eg, in a loud or noise pollutiony gig, then you mighty be relaxing into the project.
I see if i can try to influence my own perception. Like to try to convince oneself the sound is more trebly or bassy. I guess what i am doing is refocusing on part of the audio spectrum. Ear can't do it - mind can.. Maybe if one cannot due this then the mind is stressed and has been dulled.
A good exercise i think is to listen to a flute and try and imagine it as other instruments, like a trombone. Increasing imagination enables one to attune to parts or details, naturally our brains compare similar perceptions and adjust input. Rote listening may be a byproduct of artistically unconducive lifestyle factors.
Most of the time in my noise pollution-filled room (next to a fwy) I need to practice relaxation of my hearing. Imagine hearing something with a lot of fluctuation like a scene from nature, a pristine babbling brook birds, crickets, flies (just kidding about da flies..). Then imagine Bon Jovi singing "shot through the heart". No u know why we are all fatigued. Just kidding. 80's rock is the most therapeutic thing one can listen to. Esp. the hair metal.
]]>I've tried playing with the mics and found to just leave them in the default position works fine, but closing the lid and using a different EQ and reverb have made the best improvements to my ears and easy to do. Have you tried this yet?
I am trying right now but I am only getting worse results than with the presets as they are. :-(
]]>I am still trying to narrow down what bugs me about Pianoteq's sound. And it is definitley the microphone setup. If I move microphones around, it sounds like changing a comb filter, or sometimes even like a formant filter. Definitley there are partials in the spectrum which get boosted or damped depending on the microphone setup.
I mean, I know this effect from reality, like when a jetplane passes it sounds like the tonality is changing (I don't mean the Doppler effect here, I mean this kind of phasing sound).
So even that this seems to be real physics, you never notice it so strongly with a real piano.
But I am not a microphone guy. Is the sound changing that much depending on the microphones position?
I've tried playing with the mics and found to just leave them in the default position works fine, but closing the lid and using a different EQ and reverb have made the best improvements to my ears and easy to do. Have you tried this yet?
]]>I mean, I know this effect from reality, like when a jetplane passes it sounds like the tonality is changing (I don't mean the Doppler effect here, I mean this kind of phasing sound).
So even that this seems to be real physics, you never notice it so strongly with a real piano.
But I am not a microphone guy. Is the sound changing that much depending on the microphones position?
]]>Jake Johnson wrote:superskeet wrote:I'm actually using one of the factory presets on the Pultronic that is for piano, but the whole point of my post is to that you need to use a better EQ in general. I've tried several different EQ's and most all of them sound better than what is in PianoTeq. Same goes for the reverb.
Could you post some examples--render a midi file or two with and without your Pultronic tube EQ vst? Always interested n hearing the results of eq.
Hi , you can try the demo here....
You can download the reverb demo here:
]]>superskeet wrote:User123123123 wrote:Would you mind sharing your best EQ findings? I think reverb is rather personal taste, but EQ is really essential, and difficult to tune in.
I'm actually using one of the factory presets on the Pultronic that is for piano, but the whole point of my post is to that you need to use a better EQ in general. I've tried several different EQ's and most all of them sound better than what is in PianoTeq. Same goes for the reverb.
Could you post some examples--render a midi file or two with and without your Pultronic tube EQ vst? Always interested n hearing the results of eq.
Hi , you can try the demo here....
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