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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926756#p926756</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>OK - I&#039;m happy to go along with the Behringer XENYX for the moment - in the meantime, I&#039;m looking for an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 on ebay. Seems a reliable and cheap option, and there are lots of them, and they have updated software, including drivers for W7 64 Sp1. </p><p>Maybe that will be quite adequate for recording. Behringer for playing with ideas &amp; practice.</p><p>Thanks for your insight into this.....I&#039;m just starting out with D/A recording.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926749#p926749</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>If you&#039;re getting a dedicated audio interface, it&#039;s almost universally always better to run their own ASIO drivers rather than A4A.</p><p>Oh and BTW WDM kernel streaming is definitely not the best way to get reliable latency.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (EvilDragon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926748#p926748</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean something like M-Audio Audiophile 2496? And would that go through its own ASIO or something like ASIO4ALL? </p><p>I&#039;m still having various problems with the system I&#039;ve got, which ever drivers I use...though there are &#039;work round&#039; solutions. But it means you can never have the whole system working together - you have to reconfigure for mike/midi/midi recording, and so on. Pain in the ass.&nbsp; </p><p>The synchronization problem with WDM kernel streaming (time lag after some seconds of running, but not in the beginning)&nbsp; should surely be solvable by a software fix of some sort.</p><p>Also, the&nbsp; (Behringer mixer) USB sound system solution is more convenient because it allows more mixing possibilities - saves a lot of time and gives more monitoring options. Pity about the drivers....</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926741#p926741</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#039;m afraid the Behringer mixer could be the culprit... Poorly written drivers typically. But, FYI, the problem could be the same with other (even better) USB mixers. You&#039;d better use a dedicated audio interface if possible. There are so many, and most of them with proper ASIO drivers, giving you a very low latency.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Luc Henrion)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2013 06:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926740#p926740</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>An excellent suggestion. The sound card that came with this computer (a second hand HP X6200 which was used for gaming) is called SoundMAX works better than the Behringer USB mixer. No break up, no strange time lags (only the ones expected with the setting). </p><p>I also have a very old sound card in another computer which I&#039;ll try tomorrow, perhaps - it was state of the art back in the 90s - AudioWerk 8, I think it&#039;s called, made by the people who make the Logic/ emagic stuff. The problem with it was, at least the last time I tried it, it does not accept the sound drivers that work with ASIO. Also, I went round the internet for weeks looking for XP drivers for it, so I don&#039;t hold out much hope for Windows 7 drivers for it....then there&#039;s the 32/64 bit problem.......</p><p>But the SoundMAX seems ok, but it&#039;s just a general purpose thing, by the look of it.</p><p>The Behringer mixer is very handy indeed but, I fear, a bit crap.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (toddy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2013 01:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926737#p926737</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>just a suggestion: what happens if you use your internal sound card instead of the Behringer mixer?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Luc Henrion)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926736#p926736</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I suspect a lot of the problems could be linked to you using that Xenyx as your audio interface. Having a dedicated audio interface with proper ASIO drivers (which means NOT A4A!) would definitely make a difference.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (EvilDragon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926735#p926735</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just tried WASAPI - it is strange. In &#039;shared mode&#039; everything is crunched up, but it works in exclusive mode. However, it goes out of sync after a few minutes - ie it begins to lag more than the time set (in sample buffer size).</p><p>I get better results from WDM Kernel Streaming, but that too begins to lag after a while. It seems that the best for me at the moment is ASIO4ALL.211 beta. It drops out less than the older version and does not seem to lag like WASAPI and WDM KS do. But it does not allow lower than 512 sample buffer when the microphone is plugged in.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (toddy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926733#p926733</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Can you try using WASAPI as audio driver in Reaper instead of A4A? I get good performance with it, better than with A4A even, on my computer(s).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (EvilDragon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926732#p926732</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Update: a quick note to Pianoteq Support solved the problem for me: two earlier versions of Pianoteq 4 work perfectly well inside Reaper in my computer:</p><p><a href="http://www.pianoteq.com/download?file=pianoteq_trial_v421.exe">http://www.pianoteq.com/download?file=p...l_v421.exe</a><br /><a href="http://www.pianoteq.com/download?file=pianoteq_trial_v404.exe">http://www.pianoteq.com/download?file=p...l_v404.exe</a></p><p>However, v451 does not work, even with the newest ASIO4ALL version, or any other driver available. This must be a very specific bug indeed because it doesn&#039;t seem to have affected anyone else, let alone be a &#039;known issue&#039;. It has to do with my W7installation and/or settings I suppose.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926690#p926690</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think the installer is the problem because, based on what you said, I flushed out the PianoTeq Stage version and installed the full (demo) version of PianoTeq 4. But it&#039;s exactly the same - it works using the 32bit backup with Reaper&#039;s bridge tool. But the 64bit version categorically will not work.</p><p>The stand alone version is ok, and works very well in my computer - but that&#039;s no good to me beyond being a good demo.</p><p>Very frustrating!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (toddy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926685#p926685</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Might be an issue with Pianoteq Stage demo installer, then? I run Pianoteq Pro... I hope that Modartt can you verify these issues...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (EvilDragon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926684#p926684</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That is really peculiar.</p></blockquote></div><p>What&#039;s your soundcard: not a &#039;sound card&#039; exactly, but the audio is handled with an external <br />Behringer Xenx302. It mixes audio in/out with digital&nbsp; i/o via USB</p><p>MIDI controller: Yamaha UX16 (from Roland HP302 piano)</p><p>Reaper version:&nbsp; 4.402 64bit</p><p>Windows 7 Pro service pack 1</p><p>But it IS weird because I&#039;m running other VST&#039;s including EWQL Symphonic Choirs which is supposed to be complicated (and it it was a bit!) and Kontakt, with no problem at all - all using 64 bit .dll&#039;s!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (toddy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Problem running PianoTeq 4 in Reaper]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926683#p926683</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>That is really peculiar. What&#039;s your soundcard, MIDI controller, Reaper version, etc.?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (EvilDragon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=926682#p926682</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply EvilDragon. Well, I&#039;ve just re-installed PianoTeq again, this time without the 32bit VST, just in case that helped - 64bit only (as in your system, EvilDragon). </p><p>But no - inside Reaper, it&#039;s exactly the same: even though PianoTeq, as a plug-in inside Reaper, is responding to midi, there is no sound. As soon as I put back the 32bit .dll, however, PianoTeq works.</p><p>But, it is working only via Reaper&#039;s bridging facility and it is of lower quality than the stand-alone.</p><p>This is a pity as PianoTeq4 is a great set of pianos. But it&#039;s not worth getting if the quality is going to be so compromised.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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