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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Saving dead brands???]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Completely &quot;Modeled&quot; Bosendorfer 290 Imperial Grand:</p><br /><br /><p><a href="http://www.coroflot.com/RobWing/Bosendorfer-290-Imperial-Grand">http://www.coroflot.com/RobWing/Bosendo...rial-Grand</a></p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>A nice CGI.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-01-09T18:22:18Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There are probably many good dead brand pianos.</p><p>It would take tome and money to create a add-on for each.</p><br /><p>But at least could be possible to just take the sounds of each note in few velocities, nuances, measurements, analizess, that are required to create a add-on of a given piano model.</p><p>Starting saving the models, by getting this data, before the pianos get too old and lost old glory.</p><p>Saving now for future or near future recreation.</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Sundance_k1d wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The danemann uprights from London were greath, some considered them as good as or better then the Petrov. Ive played around with a danemann from the 1920s and its still a greath piano, marvelous action to play.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-01-05T16:58:07Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The danemann uprights from London were greath, some considered them as good as or better then the Petrov. Ive played around with a danemann from the 1920s and its still a greath piano, marvelous action to play.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Sundance_k1d]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-01-05T09:07:54Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Essenfelder Factory was in Parana state, near my state, as I live on Brazil.&nbsp; I send one email to the Shymphonic Orchestra of Parana, asking help about find the best models in good shape, and contact to the old owners of the Essenfelder Factory.</p><p>Let&#039;s see what happens.</p><p>Modartt few years ago, for Kivir project needed precise carefully recording of each note in 3 or 4 velocities, measurements. <br /> Not sure if it&#039;s the same today or if more details are need.</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Jake Johnson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I like the sound of the Essenfelder, too. But how would one find one to study? I keep hoping that Oleg will one day have the idea that his many older pianos should be be preserved in Pianoteq. True, his shop is a few hundred miles away from Toulouse, but what is physical distance when art is concerned?</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-01-03T19:53:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I like the sound of the Essenfelder, too. But how would one find one to study? I keep hoping that Oleg will one day have the idea that his many older pianos should be be preserved in Pianoteq. True, his shop is a few hundred miles away from Toulouse, but what is physical distance when art is concerned?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jake Johnson]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-01-03T19:23:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have a idea. <br />What about use pianoteq technology to save dead piano brands.?</p><p>The Kivir project help to preserve historic instruments, and it&#039;s a very good and honorable initiative. But I&#039;m also talking about very good modern pianos, no longer manufatured. </p><br /><p>We know there are some very good pianos which label no longer exist, the factory no long built piano, was closed etc... <br />One example is the brazilian piano brand called Essenfelder, internationally recognized as a very good piano, which factory sadly closed in early 90&#039;s, and piano quality was very good until 1986 or so. Family problems and economic crises... they speed up and cut costs, quality droped, and finally the factory was closed. </p><br /><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-qqVBicQJ0">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-qqVBicQJ0</a> </p><br /><br /><p>Similar to film preservation, I think it&#039;s important to save some piano brands legacy. </p><br /><p>Does anybody have in mind another very good modern piano brand no longer manufatured?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-01-03T18:13:23Z</updated>
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