Modartt user forum - Thank you for the Clavichord

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (Beto-Music) — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:28:42 +0000

What about a christmas performance with Neupert add-on, to publish in pianoteq site?

One using vibrato effects...

That would be quite charmming.

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (Gilles) — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:15:32 +0000

For people who downloaded the Neupert Guitar fxp, I forgot that it refers to a custom convolution IR file (Large Wide Echo Hall+Knock.wav) not included in the fxp to emulate a guitar body. Since I can't upload a wav file in the Other Files section, you can download it here:

https://sites.google.com/site/ptqspecprof/temp

Sorry about that. You can also increase that guitar body effect by turning on the Delay effect on the fxp.

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (Philippe Guillaume) — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:16:53 +0000

Wheat Williams wrote:

Thank you, Pianoteq, for the Clavichord, the first addition to the KIViR project in many months.
What I have hoped for for some time, however, has been an expansion and refinement of the existing harpsichords and fortepianos, with regard to providing an emulation of things like lute stops. Early fortepianos had a cloth strip attached to a wooden strip on a lever that could be lowered onto the strings to produce a distinctive muted sound. There was also the "parchment roll" effect that produced a buzzing sound of a roll of paper resting lightly on the strings. I know of no way to get that effect with the existing KIViR models.

Williams, did you test the 'mute' feature in the action panel? Of course nothing to do with the buzzing sound produced by a parchment roll, but it resembles the sound produced by a strip of felt.

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (EvilDragon) — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:11:54 +0000

LTECpiano wrote:

Very nice instrument add-on. It would be nice for the polyphonic after pressure to implement the pitch/vibrato effect.
Lanny

Eh? The addon DOES support poly AT! In fact, with v4.2.1., now ANY Pianoteq instrument supports poly AT!

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (pz) — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:00:10 +0000

Thank you for this. We finally have the missing link between the cimbalom and the fortepianos. When I read your announcement I was a bit puzzled by your choice of a 41 Neupert, but proof of the model is in the playing, so I dusted of some baroque books and had a few hours of fun. Very impressed with the sound of the bass, in particular, which makes the lower voices very alive, and really helps you in polyphony. Wonderful to be able to play an instrument that was so commonly played at the time, and is so rare now.

Also, very pleased with the fact that you are keeping KIVIR alive. This, imho, sets Pianoteq apart from all other virtual piano tools, and was at least for me the deciding push to choose for your product.

A merry Christmas to you all!

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (Wheat Williams) — Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:38:05 +0000

Thank you, Pianoteq, for the Clavichord, the first addition to the KIViR project in many months.

What I have hoped for for some time, however, has been an expansion and refinement of the existing harpsichords and fortepianos, with regard to providing an emulation of things like lute stops. Early fortepianos had a cloth strip attached to a wooden strip on a lever that could be lowered onto the strings to produce a distinctive muted sound. There was also the "parchment roll" effect that produced a buzzing sound of a roll of paper resting lightly on the strings. I know of no way to get that effect with the existing KIViR models.

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (Beto-Music) — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:31:37 +0000

From pianoteq site:

"The clavichord has been referred to as the most intimate of keyboard instruments, the player being able to control attack, duration, volume, and even provide certain subtle effects of vibrato known as Bebung by varying the pressure on the key."

Can a modern hi end aftertouch keyboard controll pressure (holding a key with some variable pressure)???

I have a humble sugestion to Modartt:

What about let a option to enable a progressive pedal to try simulate one or two of these effects?

hkalupa wrote:

Wow, well done. At least in respect to my own, this one has the potential to become the most valuable “free instrument”, even for more recent music styles. It's a very appealing model that raises the desire to get in touch with real thing. Unfortunately I don't have a keyboard with aftertouch around. So just to be sure, if I had one, would I be able do this in a similar manner?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oCGNwDokT0
(video, demonstrates bending / Bebung / vibrato on a Sabathil & Son )
Are variable note off velocities also that important?
Thanks and regards, hk

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (Coldsalmon) — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:46:13 +0000

I just received "The Graded Scarlatti" and "The Graded Rameau" in the mail today -- perfect timing! I am now totally in love with the clavichord sound for baroque keyboard music. I can't wait for the Couperin I'm getting for christmas! Thanks again!

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (skip) — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:17:27 +0000

Sounds fantastic!

And I love the "Le Clan Des Clavichordes" demo. It reminds me a bit of the theme from the old "The Persauders" TV show, which was written by John Barry. (which I think is fantastic also)

Greg.

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (sigasa) — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:39:58 +0000

Thank you so very much Modartt for this wonderful instrument,

Kindest Regards,

Chris

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (Philippe Guillaume) — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:28:15 +0000

Coldsalmon wrote:

I have one question: was the original instrument fretted or unfretted? Thank you for the Clavichord, and Merry Christmas!

It was unfretted, one string per key. Using the same soundboard model, we added a preset that has two strings for each key (each tangent).

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (Coldsalmon) — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:11:59 +0000

I have one question: was the original instrument fretted or unfretted? Thank you for the Clavichord, and Merry Christmas!

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (Gilles) — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:26:53 +0000

gjoly wrote:

Gilles wrote:
(By the way, the Remove button doesn't work in the FXP corner. I uploaded a redundant copy of my fxp by error and can't remove it...)
This is fixed. I removed the FXP for you.

Thanks! I think I cleaned up everything now.

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (gjoly) — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:08:49 +0000

Gilles wrote:

(By the way, the Remove button doesn't work in the FXP corner. I uploaded a redundant copy of my fxp by error and can't remove it...)

This is fixed. I removed the FXP for you.

Re: Thank you for the Clavichord

null@example.com (Philippe Guillaume) — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:08:26 +0000

lindmusik wrote:

I agree that the Neupert sounds great, and I'll probably use it a lot in my work.
However, I want to ask the members here if the pianoforte should sound as it does when one plays a short, dotted note on one of the lowest keys? It has a very inharmonious release, quite apparent, so that one makes sure to play longer bass notes in order to avoid them. Is this a characteristics of the real Neupert as well?

It is characteristic of clavichords: when the tangent hits the string, this one is divided in two parts, one which vibrates while the other part is damped by a felt strip (on the left side of the image you can see in the presets manager). When the key is released, the vibrating part becomes suddenly longer, involving lower overtones, which are quickly damped by the same felt. This "change of length" produces the typical sound you are mentioning. The same occurs BTW on the clavinet.