http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre...p;%20.html

In my opinion, the best action is:

Yamaha GH, GH3 or GPA
Kawai RM3 Grand II or GF
Roland PHA-III

But as always, YMMV.

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical-...cp4_stage/

Do for a start, anyway.

ADDED: what you'll have is a curve that's either less than, or more than, the diffs-away-from-diagonal that MP-10 needs. So make curves that are twice-as-much different, and half-as-much different, from diagonal as VPC1 is, and you can see which direction to correct in, by trying them.

Kawai models have a very nice touch response.

But personally I found their piano sounds not great (just good), but too sampled feeling...  a bit like playing a library...  despite they claim to have string ressoance and other effects.

When get used with pianoteq start to feels like all sampled pianos are "too sampled"

Hey, this thread is very old, but as I got my MP-10 yesterday, I answer here instead of opening a new one.

I am still a beginner on the piano, I made my decision only on the basis of the keyboard action as I could try it out in the local music store (they have virtually everything there). Sound of the boards is very difficult to judge in a store because the sound quality of the headphone outs is very different from piano to piano.

In terms of keyboard action I found the MP-10 the best playable for me, maybe also because I am used to the partly worn out, but very smooth action of my Technics P30.

For the sound of the internal pianos I absolutely agree to the posting above: The sounds are ok, but have a nasty tonality and absolutely lack the aliveness of the Pianoteq I have become familiar with over the last months.
At home I switched back and forth between the Kawai MP-10 pianos (only the first one being really good), the GEM RP-x module and Pianoteq 4.5 (U4 upright) and while the Kawai versus GEM (highly praised) is more a question of taste (I prefer GEM by a slight margin), none of those 2 can match the authentic feeling and sound of the Pianoteq.

Now I haven't recently tried the tup libraries like Alicias Keys, Vintage D etc., but I yet need to hear a sample based piano that does not have that "dead Sample" sound, more or less prominent.
The only big advantage of the internal sounds is that you do not rely on a computer. Otherwise I am an absolute fan of Pianoteq and hope that they will come out with further upgrades and improvements of sound over the next years.

Question: Does someone play Pianoteq over the MP-10 and have an optimized vel curve?

Bernie

But personally I found their piano sounds not great (just good), but too sampled feeling...  a bit like playing a library...  despite they claim to have string ressoance and other effects.

When get used with pianoteq start to feels like all sampled pianos are "too sampled"

But in their site I found some organs onboard their digital pianos:

http://www.kawai.net.au/digital/CA65

Can pianotep eletric pianos be adjusted to get a similar tone?

Hi Mistheria,

In your opinion, is the Kawai MP10 as good as the MP8?

Kindest Regards,

Chris

Sure, and even better...

Kawai MP8 forever! 88-wood keys make the difference between any master keyboard and a real one.  I use the Kawai MP8 to record anything, from Piano to Harpsichord, from El. Piano to Clavichord. Check some of my demo I posted on this forum. Specifically, Pianoteq 3 and 4 work perfectly in combination with the Kawai MP8, great dynamic control and fine fine response, especially for Classical music, in fact with this combination I performed some of my music concerts. When you practice and play effectively a little on this kind of keyboard, you cannot switch back, totally addicted!

This said, on the other hand, I play and played Pianoteq with any kind of master keyboards, always getting a great response and control, from a 61-key to a 88-key (not wooded) as you can see here recording on a CME UF80: http://youtu.be/eIoPywSt0ZQ?t=1m3s

It does not matter which keyboard, the Pianoteq's sound and control make the difference!

All the best,
Mistheria / www.mistheria.com

Hi Mistheria,

In your opinion, is the Kawai MP10 as good as the MP8?

Kindest Regards,

Chris

It's fun to imagine the possibilities for a 360 degree keyboard. I imagine two persons in a rotational chair (like a fine office chair) and back to back, rotation and each one playing the scale in a complex song.

But my idea now is for a low degree arc, maybe cruved just in the sides (bass and trebble)

Arc keyboard?  How about 360° . . the keyboardist for Lady (?) GaGa has one that is 88x3 in a complete circle.

Lanny

Good and thanks for the info... but personally I don't need by now, working perfectly with standard Kawai MP8 wood keys, CME UF76 and UF80. I also played Pianoteq on my Keytar! ;-)

Lanny

Sorry for disrupt a bit the talking, but :

WOuld you like a 105 keys controller ?  (pianoteq's D4 have 105 keys)
Some people say it get too long...
So what about a arc keyboard instead of a straight keyboard ?

Well, I did not need by now, but if I need a 105-key master keyboard I'd buy it but... does it exist?! Moreover, what do you mean for "arc keyboard"?

WOuld you like a 105 keys controller ?  (pianoteq's D4 have 105 keys)

Some people say it get too long...

So what about a arc keyboard instead of a straight keyboard ?

This said, on the other hand, I play and played Pianoteq with any kind of master keyboards, always getting a great response and control, from a 61-key to a 88-key (not wooded) as you can see here recording on a CME UF80: http://youtu.be/eIoPywSt0ZQ?t=1m3s

It does not matter which keyboard, the Pianoteq's sound and control make the difference!

All the best,
Mistheria / www.mistheria.com