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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. I&#039;m interested in this for the trivial objective of using a pedal to control the volume of the Pianorga preset, and perhaps mapping another sound timbre element to aftertouch - that&#039;s a timbrally rich and interesting synth sound.</p><p>My guess would be as feline1 - the VSTi interface lets software interrogate the VSTi for a list of controllable things, and their parameters, and ranges. I should make the effort to read the spec, but with &quot;learn&quot; modes appearing in software and hardware, I&#039;m getting lazy.</p><p>Novation&#039;s Nocturn control surface <a href="http://www.novationmusic.com/products/midi_control/nocturn/">http://www.novationmusic.com/products/m...l/nocturn/</a>, especially the software side, looks very interesting - for use with a computer though. And the product is inexpensive too. Were it not for the two dozen contols on my Fatar VMK-88+ sitting idle I would probably get one. But I&#039;m getting lazy.</p><p>Well, not exactly. The more I create, the more I take the view music is not about sound or timbre in themselves, but about notes and the way they are expressed, of which timbre variations are one part. Hmmm.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[hyper.real]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-09T23:10:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just going back to this thread - </p><p>I was programming up a little Doepfer knob box to use with Pianteq tonight.</p><p>It struck me that it would be handy if the Pianteq user guide had one of those standard format &quot;MIDI Implementation Charts&quot; in it, listing exactly what Pianoteq can respond to - </p><p>i was on the MIDI Manufacturers Association site, <br />and I noticed they&#039;ve actually changed the format of the standard chart<br />it&#039;s on <a href="http://www.midi.org/techspecs/">http://www.midi.org/techspecs/</a><br />as <a href="http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midichart2.pdf">http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midichart2.pdf</a></p><p>I was gonna fill one out for my own reference (it soooo much handier to compare how devices will commicate when you have dozens of them in your studio!) <br />but it would be good to have an official one in the Pianoteq user guide for the next release.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-04-09T20:54:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>(sorry for the silence--I was sleeping then offline)</p><p>In that case, you&#039;re limited to what you can right-click on the interface and get the &#039;learn&#039; , which is pretty much everything but the various &#039;options&#039;, lid, output, diapason, temperament, velocity and eq.</p><p>I&#039;ve mapped mine to an x-station and have found it very useful. I mapped &#039;unison width&#039; to my (unsprung) mod wheel, &#039;cutoff&#039; and&nbsp; &#039;q factor&#039; to the xy pad, the spectrum profile to the sliders and the rest to various knobs. Very handy in performance.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[doug]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-03-05T20:37:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I use &quot;Reaper&quot; these days, <br />but I am more interested in seeing what I can make the Pianoteq stand-alone program do with hardware MIDI knob/slider boxes.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-03-05T15:37:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Different sequencers allow you to control the parameters of a VSTI to different degrees and in different ways. Unless you&#039;re locked into Logic, you may need to just wade in and explore what each can do. I know that&#039;s time consuming, but it may be worthwhile.</p><p>What sequencer\wrapper are you using?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jake Johnson]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-03-05T15:35:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yep the &#039;fader&#039; values are sort of Logic internal Midi messages....<br />I could convert the Automation values to controller events but instead of Midi controller values they are just visible as &#039;Fader&#039; events...<br />It must indeed be an internal plugin-API thing...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[creart]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-03-05T12:42:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Aye maybe they&#039;re available through some VSTi API? Which isn&#039;t the same as MIDI? <br />(I&#039;m just guessing here)</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-03-05T12:27:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>it seems that way - but problem is that Logic works with these plugin values thru its internal &#039;Automation Fader&#039; system...<br />I&#039;ve just been doing some checking to see if sysex messages would be visible for these parameters but I&#039;m afraid they are not.....</p><p>I&#039;m at work right now so can&#039;t really search in-depth but will investigate further...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-03-05T12:17:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I see - looks like you effectively have a 8-band parametric EQ if you mapped that to some knobs.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-03-05T12:02:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>for completeness (sort of..) here are the lists as jpgs as they show up in Logic....<br />one is the &#039;control view &#039; of the plugin (I left a lot of equalizer sliders out to keep a list a bit shorter) - the other is a list as show in the Automation window in Logic</p><p><a href="http://pzl.creartgraphics.nl/images/PTQ_interface.jpg">http://pzl.creartgraphics.nl/images/PTQ_interface.jpg</a></p><p><a href="http://pzl.creartgraphics.nl/images/PTQ_2.jpg">http://pzl.creartgraphics.nl/images/PTQ_2.jpg</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[creart]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-03-05T11:58:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well I have various boxes, such as the Doepfer Drehbank, <br />and a Kenton Control Freak... both of these can send any MIDI message, not just cc&#039;s.</p><p>I&#039;m intrigued to know if, for instance, I can change the EQ curve with a series of sliders, as if it was a graphic EQ.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[feline1]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-03-05T11:45:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey Feline</p><p>It think Doug means the P(iano)T(e)Q interface....</p><p>In Logic a plugin can be edited by using curves on which you set control points for certain values. If a parameter is available within the plugin there is access to it thru Logic&#039;s curve editing.... no need for sysex there.</p><p>In Pianoteq it seems that all values that can be chaged using sliders, can also be assigned to controller values....</p><p>I want to assign lots of variables to my Behringer BCR2000 so I will be able to do tweaking of sounds a lot easier.<br />What do you want to use to edit the controllers with?</p><p>cheers<br />Hans</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-03-05T11:37:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Cheers - <br />for the extra info - <br />although I now feel I know even less than I did! :-)</p><p>How does Logic know about all this?<br />What&#039;s a ptq interface?<br />Are these things I can tweak using SysEx?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[feline1]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-03-05T11:29:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, in Logic (which lists available parameters), I count 34 parameters plus 31 values for the equalizer and 22 values for velocity. I don&#039;t actually feel like writing them all down but I think it&#039;s pretty much everything, including such esoterica as lid position, whoosh volume, reverb duration/size/weight etc. etc.</p><p>I don&#039;t think you can control anything that&#039;s not in the standard Pianoteq interface (such as harmonics above the 8th) though. And I also know that some of these parameters are not available to MIDI using just the ptq interface (anything under &#039;options&#039; for example).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[doug]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-03-05T01:11:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Exactly which parameters of Pianoteq can you control by MIDI?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>On page 31 (Appendix 2) of the Pianteq User Guide, <br />there&#039;s a handy list of the which MIDI continuous controller messages are mapped to the main pianoteq controls by default.</p><p>However I am wondering if this list is exhaustive?</p><p>It&#039;s just that you also seem to be able to right-click on the 8 overtone level controls in the &quot;spectrum profile&quot; panel, and set cc&#039;s for each other those?<br />Also for the &#039;dynamics&#039; controller?</p><p>For those of us who&#039;d like to really go to town on using external MIDI control, <br />it would be good to see a &#039;Standard MIDI Implementation&#039; format chart of everything Pianoteq can respond to.<br />Also it might be handy to have a config page where all the MIDI controller assignments can be seen and adjusted all together, rather than having to always right-click on each one?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-03-05T00:21:57Z</updated>
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