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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If I should ever need 4 pedals, I would build it with this 4-analog-inputs-midicontroller ...</p><p><a href="http://www.doepfer.de/we.htm">http://www.doepfer.de/we.htm</a></p><p>... and 4 single Roland DP-10 Pedals.</p><p>The whole unit has one MIDI-Output and the benefit of providing continuous controllers.</p><p>You might remember this:&nbsp; <a href="http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?pid=936566#p936566">http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic...66#p936566</a></p><p>cheers</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve got this old 13 pedal unit gathering dust in a closet...Anybody interested? (Just kidding of course <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i> )<br /><a href="http://www.synthony.com/vintage/mp1.html">http://www.synthony.com/vintage/mp1.html</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-02-21T15:52:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Screw 4 pedal solutions - we need EIGHT pedal solutions to have all the nice pedals Pianoteq offers available at the SAME TIME! <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>or a FULL AGO pedal board, plus 3 or 4 swells - oh, make that a round dozen too.</p><p>Hmmm, there don&#039;t seem to be any 5 or 7 manual organs on PTQ - too simple, or what ?</p><p>Hammond B3 anyone ?&nbsp; Just 13 pedals and a couple of 60 key keyboards for that.<br />Simple sounds, just additive sine waves - done and DONE.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-02-21T14:57:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Screw 4 pedal solutions - we need EIGHT pedal solutions to have all the nice pedals Pianoteq offers available at the SAME TIME! <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-02-19T13:13:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Anyone figure out how to use a 3 pedal set and &quot;insert&quot; an extra straight one to get a decent looking <br />bent left, straight, straight, bent right; set and build them into a box ?<br />I suspect there may be a market for a garage based business for these and decent 3 pedal units - MIDI out and/or phono plugs.</p><p>Various 3 pedal sets are here, but I don&#039;t know if they would sell singles;<br /><a href="http://www.vandaking.com/piano-pedals.html">http://www.vandaking.com/piano-pedals.html</a><br />The Box might be simple enough to build the hinges into&nbsp; ...maybe, maybe not.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-02-19T03:30:08Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris,<br />I had looked at the midi expression quattro earlier and if/when I get a reasonable set of physical pedals to work with I will most likely go with that.</p><p>The lividinstruments Brain thing looks a bit like an arduino based board.<br />Not sure I want to&nbsp; go through another learning curve with that&nbsp; <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i><br />I currently have a smoothieboard project that I have to come up to speed on and will likely transport that knowledge to my next (non musical) project.</p><p>So, for ME a lack of suitable physical pedals is the big obstacle right now</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-02-17T12:38:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The MIDI Expression Quattro will convert four continuous pedals (or 8 switch pedals) to MIDI for $119US</p><p><a href="http://www.midiexpression.com/">http://www.midiexpression.com/</a></p><p>If you want to build something yourself, the Brain Jr from Livid might be an option.</p><p><a href="http://lividinstruments.com/products/builder/">http://lividinstruments.com/products/builder/</a></p><p>Chris</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#039;t have a solid 3 pedal solution.<br />A CME GPP-3 was on flea bay asking $99.99, I offered $20 with the intent of discarding all but the pedals and frame - or maybe rebuilding it with upgrades as each failure occurred.<br />He rejected my offer, supposedly it went for the full asking price a couple of days later.</p><p>Anyway, the more I think about this the more I &quot;want&quot; 4 pedals and it is the HARDWARE 4 pedals that I would like to find.<br />I don&#039;t think many wooden pianos were built with 4, I can think of only one upright(Crown), and trying to separate a 4 pedal hardware set or a lyre from a piano re-builder would take time, patience, pleading and money in quantities I don&#039;t have.<br />I suppose one COULD cobble up something with a left, right and two straight middles from piano parts, but it would need its own &quot;box&quot;, which could house the electronics.</p><p>...just thinking out loud here, but any suggestions would be appreciated.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-02-05T20:23:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>the midisolutions pedal controller looks a little overpriced to me. 149 USD for a pedal controller that can just read one additional pedal? sounds ridiculous to me. I&#039;m currently developing such a controller as an open source &quot;spin off&quot; of my piano sensor strip. It can manage up to 8 analog controls to be sent as midi control changes(So up to 8 progressive pedals). Depending on your ability to solder it should cost way below 50 €.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-08-24T08:10:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>JcJet wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><a href="http://www.midisolutions.com/prodped.htm#">http://www.midisolutions.com/prodped.htm#</a><br />How about those ones to plug in the remaining pedals?</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks very much for that suggestion. Have a Keith McMillen Softstep on order ... will use that + a Roland pedal unit.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-08-21T00:48:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The cost of the TUSB unit + cables + soft and sustain sensors + power adaptor is €375 TRADE PRICE.</p><br /><p>Kindest Regards,</p><p>Chris</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-08-08T11:44:14Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pianissimo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>chris - thanx. so what exactly is the &#039;tusb&#039; interface when separated out from pianoscan? it is a &#039;thingy&#039; that can accept continuous and on/off data?</p><p>IT IS RECOGNIZED IN THE MIDI9 SOFTWARE AS A &#039;CONSOLE&#039; RATHER THAN &#039;STRIP&#039; WHEN SEPARATED FROM THE KEYBOARD OPTICAL SENSOR STRIP.</p><p>also are you using the 3-pedal fatar pedal device? is it 3 continuous pedals or 3 on/off switches? or some combination of the two? i&#039;m assuming it lets u plug 3 pedals into the nums&#039;s two inputs for that. yes?</p><p>I USE THE FATAR TRIPLE PEDAL AS A STARTING POINT. I TAKE OUT THE ORIGINAL ELECTRONICS (ON/OFF SWITCHES) AND PUT IN PNOSCAN&#039;S OPTICAL PEDAL SENSORS. THESE MONITOR ALL MOVEMENT OF THE PEDALS WITH GREAT ACCURACY AND THE MIDI9 SOFTWARE ALLOWS YOU TO TWEEK THEM TO YOUR LIKING.<br />I&#039;VE STILL NOT HEARD AS TO COST, BUT WILL LET YOU KNOW AS SOON AS I HEAR.</p><p>(thanx fror all info!)</p></blockquote></div><p>KINDEST REGARDS,</p><p>CHRIS</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-08-07T19:44:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>chris - thanx. so what exactly is the &#039;tusb&#039; interface when separated out from pianoscan? it is a &#039;thingy&#039; that can accept continuous and on/off data? </p><p>also are you using the 3-pedal fatar pedal device? is it 3 continuous pedals or 3 on/off switches? or some combination of the two? i&#039;m assuming it lets u plug 3 pedals into the nums&#039;s two inputs for that. yes?</p><p>(thanx fror all info!)</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-08-07T00:19:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pianissimo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Is anyone using 4 pedals w/Pianoteq? .... Pianoteq &quot;progressive sustain&quot; and &quot;una corda&quot; require continuous values. Yes? And the Pianoteq &quot;sostenuto&quot; and &quot;harmonic&quot; pedals are simple on/off switches. Yes?</p><p>One solution: The Roland RPU-3 unit has, if I&#039;m understanding correctly, 3 pedals all of which output continuous values. The Keith McMillen USB Softstep can pedals that can function as on/off switches. So two of the Roland pedals for continuous values and 2 of the Keith McMillen pedals for on/off values == 4 pedals ...</p><p>I&#039;ll be using this w/a Numa so far as I know I&#039;ll only be able to connect two of the three Roland pedals to the Numa. Then the KM Softstep will connect to Pianoteq through a USB port on my laptop. </p><p>Does anyone have a solution that doesn&#039;t require two different pedal devices or a solution that might be simpler or better or different?</p></blockquote></div><p>I do Pianissimo!!! I use the TUSB unit of my PNOscan as a standalone unit in a Fatar triple pedal. I don&#039;t have the forth pedal setup, but the unit DOES support 4 pedals. Funny you should ask but I&#039;m waiting on the cost of TUSB units (without the PNOscan keyboard strips) from the European rep. As soon as I hear from him, I&#039;ll let you know the total cost of such a system including the pedal hardware.</p><p>And yes, it supports all PianoTeq&#039;s options, i.e. continuous sustain, continuous una corda etc..</p><p>Kindest Regards,</p><p>Chris</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-08-06T18:51:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[A 4-pedal solution for Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone using 4 pedals w/Pianoteq? .... Pianoteq &quot;progressive sustain&quot; and &quot;una corda&quot; require continuous values. Yes? And the Pianoteq &quot;sostenuto&quot; and &quot;harmonic&quot; pedals are simple on/off switches. Yes?</p><p>One solution: The Roland RPU-3 unit has, if I&#039;m understanding correctly, 3 pedals all of which output continuous values. The Keith McMillen USB Softstep can pedals that can function as on/off switches. So two of the Roland pedals for continuous values and 2 of the Keith McMillen pedals for on/off values == 4 pedals ...</p><p>I&#039;ll be using this w/a Numa so far as I know I&#039;ll only be able to connect two of the three Roland pedals to the Numa. Then the KM Softstep will connect to Pianoteq through a USB port on my laptop. </p><p>Does anyone have a solution that doesn&#039;t require two different pedal devices or a solution that might be simpler or better or different?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-08-06T14:08:54Z</updated>
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