They will be showing it at the Frankfurt Music fair in April I've heard.

If you've too much money there's now this midi controller for about 5000 Euros

http://ma8346.wix.com/mpianos-en#!portfolio/c18el

. . .
:-)

Unfortunately, the site says:

So it doesn't exist, yet.  Haptic keyboards are very interesting, for all kinds of reasons.  Just difficult, and expensive, to build!

.     Charles

http://ma8346.wix.com/mpianos-en#!portfolio/c18el

Apparently it's designed by Porsche and you can even vary the the perceived 'weight' of the keys via an app….

Or they make an Alpha model with a concert grand action inside for a mere 18,000 Euros.

There's always something to dream about!
:-)

Kindest Regards,

Chris

pianissimo wrote:

1976pianoman wrote:

I just unpacked a Numa Nero, and while I'm disgusted with the fact that they changed the finish from a piano-like high gloss black, to a cheap black matte finish, this is the most incredible action I have ever felt - and I am hard to please when it comes to piano actions.  They have to be spot-on realistic for me.  I have never felt anything this good before.  I'm having trouble learning the interface - how the dynamic presets work (I can't even find them) and how to set your own.  I'm sure I'll figure it out soon.  This thing, despite the few issues I have is pretty incredible.  I may have to take it to a body shop to get it painted to get that really cool piano look that the previous versions had. 

Very very nice to hear your impressions having unpacked the NUMA. I'm not far from ordering one myself and I'm also very critical of keyboard actions.

I have to stress though that I was heartbroken when I opened the box and saw the matte finish.  While the Nero is all about the feel, it is also, well at least WAS also, all about an esthetic as well - a true piano esthetic.  Studiologic even promotes it as such on their website with photos showing the high gloss finish.  They talk about the "elegant black color".    Now, this thing looks like something you would buy at Costco or Walmart.  I'm really having a hard time with it and trying to get over it.  Yes, the action was the main reason why I choose it, but the finish was also very important to me. 

I feel, based on a number of other changes that have been made such as cheaper packaging (the box and internal packing materials are way cheap now) and the lack of printed manual (CD manual instead) both of which are recent changes compared to the earlier Neros that were shipped - that Studiologic is cutting costs.  I don't mind the latter two changes - but the change to the finish is unacceptable, especially because they don't mention anywhere on their website or any of their marketing materials that the high gloss is gone.  I'm waiting to hear back from them.  I'm hoping they have a high gloss Nero that I can swap mine with.  Does anyone think I'm over reacting?  I wish I was, but I really don't think I am.  Here is their website.  You can see how it is "suppose" to look.

http://www.studiologic-music.com/numa.html?product=2

Here's how mine looks:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p77/...010016.jpg

Well, if you didn't get what you ordered, most reputable businesses (and even some unreputable ones) will do what it takes to get it right. But bottom line is you're likely be playing it for a while so you're absolutely correct to get it swapped out for the correct one if that's what you want ...

I have to stress though that I was heartbroken when opened the box and saw the matte finish.  While the Nero is all about the feel, it is also, well at least WAS also, all about an esthetic as well - a true piano esthetic.  Studiologic even promotes it as such on their website with photos showing the high gloss finish.  They talk about the "elegant black color".    Now, this thing looks like something you would buy at Costco or Walmart.  I'm really having a hard time with it and trying to get over it.  Yes, the action was the main reason why I choose it, but the finish was also very important to me. 
Here's how mine looks:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p77/...010016.jpg

That is unacceptable (it could also be an error). You should have the high-gloss finish, so you should return it...or at least get a substantial price reduction.

1976pianoman wrote:

I just unpacked a Numa Nero, and while I'm disgusted with the fact that they changed the finish from a piano-like high gloss black, to a cheap black matte finish, this is the most incredible action I have ever felt - and I am hard to please when it comes to piano actions.  They have to be spot-on realistic for me.  I have never felt anything this good before.  I'm having trouble learning the interface - how the dynamic presets work (I can't even find them) and how to set your own.  I'm sure I'll figure it out soon.  This thing, despite the few issues I have is pretty incredible.  I may have to take it to a body shop to get it painted to get that really cool piano look that the previous versions had. 

Very very nice to hear your impressions having unpacked the NUMA. I'm not far from ordering one myself and I'm also very critical of keyboard actions.

I have to stress though that I was heartbroken when I opened the box and saw the matte finish.  While the Nero is all about the feel, it is also, well at least WAS also, all about an esthetic as well - a true piano esthetic.  Studiologic even promotes it as such on their website with photos showing the high gloss finish.  They talk about the "elegant black color".    Now, this thing looks like something you would buy at Costco or Walmart.  I'm really having a hard time with it and trying to get over it.  Yes, the action was the main reason why I choose it, but the finish was also very important to me. 

I feel, based on a number of other changes that have been made such as cheaper packaging (the box and internal packing materials are way cheap now) and the lack of printed manual (CD manual instead) both of which are recent changes compared to the earlier Neros that were shipped - that Studiologic is cutting costs.  I don't mind the latter two changes - but the change to the finish is unacceptable, especially because they don't mention anywhere on their website or any of their marketing materials that the high gloss is gone.  I'm waiting to hear back from them.  I'm hoping they have a high gloss Nero that I can swap mine with.  Does anyone think I'm over reacting?  I wish I was, but I really don't think I am.  Here is their website.  You can see how it is "suppose" to look.

http://www.studiologic-music.com/numa.html?product=2

Here's how mine looks:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p77/...010016.jpg

I just unpacked a Numa Nero, and while I'm disgusted with the fact that they changed the finish from a piano-like high gloss black, to a cheap black matte finish, this is the most incredible action I have ever felt - and I am hard to please when it comes to piano actions.  They have to be spot-on realistic for me.  I have never felt anything this good before.  I'm having trouble learning the interface - how the dynamic presets work (I can't even find them) and how to set your own.  I'm sure I'll figure it out soon.  This thing, despite the few issues I have is pretty incredible.  I may have to take it to a body shop to get it painted to get that really cool piano look that the previous versions had. 

Very very nice to hear your impressions having unpacked the NUMA. I'm not far from ordering one myself and I'm also very critical of keyboard actions.

I can comment on the NUMA Nero being brillkiant in terms of feel. My piano teacher who teaches at the Guildhall in London UK said that the NUMA Nero action felt like a Steinway AFTER I'd removed the original silicone rubber contacts and replaced them with the PNOscan optical strip. I must admit, it is the best I've ever played. It's just a shame I had to pay all that money for a PNOscan strip just to overcome the irregular velocity problems that plague Fatar's/Studiologic's boards! The mechanics are well designed (30 years practice!) and strong. The wooden embedded keys are lovely to play.

Am I the only one paying attention here?   This guy just said he replaced the sensors on the Nero with a PNOscan optical strip, and nobody says anything about it??  That's insane! 

My question to sigasa is - WHY?  I have not heard any other pros have issues with "irregular velocity problems" on Fatar's/Studiologic's boards.  This would include quite a few keyboards including Kurzweils.  I've used Kurzweil stage pianos which all use Fatar guts and while I've had issues with broken mechanisms, I've never had velocity trouble. I've got a Nero being shipped to me at the moment, and I'm wondering what exactly do you mean?  What am I to expect?  What type of change did you experience after your modification? How did you know this would work?  Did you perform this work yourself?  How much did it cost?  Thank you. 

Hello. I'm a new one.
I'm going to buy Kawai MP10 mostly to practice classical.
I've played few times on Kawai and I found one quite important problem. Decay especially on forte is very static and unrealistic. Sound doesn't decay almost at all. It sound a little bit, like a electric guitar (sorry for compare).
Is it possibile to change it, on settings of instrument?

Welcome to the forum family

As an owner of the NUMA Nero, I would advise you not to buy the NUMA Nero without trying it
with PianoTeq. If you can buy with a money back guarantee, I would do so if I were you. Thomann
do a 30-day money back guarantee and are very competetive price-wise.

I understand the CME hammer actions have a very grand piano good feel but I can't vouch for their
reliablity having never yet owned one. I have the UF80 CLASSIC on order which should arrive in
approximately three weeks. When it arrives I'll post a review. What appeals to me most about the
UF80 CLASSIC other than the feel is the fact that the keybed frame is made of iron and as such
affords maximimum rigidity which minimises action twisting and warping etc..

Kindest Regards,

Chris