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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq crashes with Linux RT Kernel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>julien wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It works fine on stock kernel, 12.04 included -- the issue was specific to &quot;rt&quot; kernels , and should be fixed by the just-released version 4.0.2</p></blockquote></div><p>This may be unfair, perhaps I shouldn&#039;t expect it to work.<br />I just downloaded a copy of Ubuntu 12.04 Studio, which supposedly has all the interesting audio and video packages installed and set up;&nbsp; Ardour, QJackctl, etc., it is built on a real time (they call it &quot;low latency&quot;) kernel.<br />Only down side is that it is a 1.9Gig download.</p><p>Now the tricky part;<br />I tend to check things out initially on virtual machines, under VirtualBox.<br />Jack throws a fault initially, but when the trial version of PTQ4 is started it does receive midi messages from my keyboard and they sound.<br />I suspect that this is just because it is already running.<br />The latency is TERRIBLE and even I can get 4 or 5 notes ahead of the sound when playing scales :-D<br />The trail version wouldn&#039;t load the pre-sets that I had downloaded from FXP corner either, I got messages about not having the basic piano models for which they were created - I think it meant that I can&#039;t load V3 pre-sets for particular V3 instruments onto/into different V4 instruments.</p><p>So, Virtual Machines are probably OUT for any sort of live playing, though I may keep one for experimenting and playing midi files.<br />In any case it doesn&#039;t make much sense to strive for low latency in a real time virtual machine that is running in/under a non-real-time O/S (Windoze).<br />Comp Sci 101; You can run non-real-time processes under real time supervision, you can&#039;t expect to run real time processes under non-real-time supervision. <br />==========================================================<br />In a separately built UBUNTU Studio 12.04 the latency is perfectly acceptable (for MY speed and complexity of playing).</p><p>Enough of the trial version, I have been tracking my FedEx shipment of the close out deal on V3.<br />It was within 10 miles (16 Km) an hour ago; in the next 10 hours it will circle around the neighborhood and I will probably get it by 6 p.m.&nbsp; I might get to bed before day break.</p><p>Next step; I only have a single foot pedal to my (now very old) KX88 and it is very much a SWITCH (on/off) damper pedal.<br />The GPP 3 pedal unit is out of production, so I am searching for a 3 pedal unit that transmits as continuous controllers.&nbsp; <br />Hmmm, are&nbsp; una corda and sostenuto&nbsp; &quot;continuous&quot; or binary on/off on physical pianos ?<br />I have never had to think about this before.<br />I will probably have to get a USB unit and route something through something else&#039;s &quot;MID THRU&quot;.</p><p>Then I can revert to pre-set bunny role and just PLAY.</p><p>I just hope the registration and download server at Modartt stays up tonight :-D</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-05-01T11:17:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq crashes with Linux RT Kernel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>julien wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It works fine on stock kernel, 12.04 included -- the issue was specific to &quot;rt&quot; kernels , and should be fixed by the just-released version 4.0.2</p></blockquote></div><p>GREAT !!!</p><p>Then I shall change my plan and use a real time kernel.</p><p>Thanks</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-04-29T00:47:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq crashes with Linux RT Kernel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It works fine on stock kernel, 12.04 included -- the issue was specific to &quot;rt&quot; kernels , and should be fixed by the just-released version 4.0.2</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-04-28T13:23:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq crashes with Linux RT Kernel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>tractor_music wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Does this also apply to Ubuntu ?<br />I was HOPING to do a PTQ install on Ubuntu 12.04 next week.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m running Pianoteq 4 on Ubuntu 11.10 - I&#039;m not using the realtime kernel, though - and it works just fine.&nbsp; I plan on upgrading to 12.04 LTS at some point during this weekend, so we&#039;ll see how that goes.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-04-28T13:08:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq crashes with Linux RT Kernel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Does this also apply to Ubuntu ?<br />I was HOPING to do a PTQ install on Ubuntu 12.04 next week.</p><p>EDIT:<br />I missed the point about rt kernel, sorry. </p><p>Sincerely,<br />sloppy reader</p><p>:END EDIT</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-04-28T12:55:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You got mail!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[julien]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-04-24T17:37:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq crashes with Linux RT Kernel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>BTW: If you need anything tested, please drop me an email and I&#039;d be happy to try it out.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-04-24T16:34:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Pianoteq crashes with Linux RT Kernel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi I&#039;ve just downloaded and tested Pianoteq 4. On my main machine, an AMD64 x6, it crashes the kernel. Totally.</p><p>I&#039;ve experienced this before with Juce applications and the current versions of Juce, and resurrected a forum post over at Raw Material concerning this.</p><p><a href="http://www.rawmaterialsoftware.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=8507&amp;start=15">http://www.rawmaterialsoftware.com/view...p;start=15</a></p><p>Near the end there is a patch suggestion by falkTX. I have tried this on my own test applications and can confirm that it does fix this issue, I&#039;d suggest you take a look. I&#039;m sure a lot of hard core Linux users who do audio work use the realtime kernel and this may be a major issue.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-04-24T16:32:09Z</updated>
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