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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Luc Henrion wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I wouldn&#039;t do that either: studio monitors are not efficient enough for live work: the M-Audio have 90 dB for 1W/1m efficiency, where your RCF gives you about 10 dB more, and that&#039;s A LOT, not even taking into account the fact that they also have 4 times more power ! You could consider a pair of 8&quot; speakers, similar to your RCF but smaller, like the dB Technologies Opera 208D, it&#039;s a sister brand of RCF.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks Luc,</p><p>I&#039;ve compared the RCF to another Opera model, and liked the RCF better ... also two 208D would be around 18Kg&#039;s, the single RCF is 12Kg&#039;s. I&#039;d like to stay within the same weight envelope...<br />Not sure there is a good solution for me, but thanks for the tips. More ideas are welcome!</p><p>-- Eran</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[etalmor]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-04-03T09:21:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#039;t do that either: studio monitors are not efficient enough for live work: the M-Audio have 90 dB for 1W/1m efficiency, where your RCF gives you about 10 dB more, and that&#039;s A LOT, not even taking into account the fact that they also have 4 times more power ! You could consider a pair of 8&quot; speakers, similar to your RCF but smaller, like the dB Technologies Opera 208D, it&#039;s a sister brand of RCF.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Luc Henrion]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-03-31T09:50:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Luc Henrion wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>unsin only one channel for a piano sound is really not a good idea, IMHO...</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, but it&#039;s half the weight of two channels!</p><p>But seriously, I was considering selling the RCF 310A and buying a pair of M-Audio Bx5 instead. That&#039;s about the same weight ... though less power, and I don&#039;t know if these near field monitors will be any good for a small gig ....</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[etalmor]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-03-28T19:23:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>unsin only one channel for a piano sound is really not a good idea, IMHO...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Luc Henrion]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-03-28T07:55:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>LTECpiano wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>etalmor wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>rlburnside wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&quot;- make my crappy classical reading sound like Vladimir Ashkenazy,&quot;</p><p>Don&#039;t need PTQ 4 for that ! Pretty much you just need to play all your repertoire as if you&#039;re in a hurry to go to the bathroom, as mechanically and with as little soul as humanly possible. It helps if you&#039;re sick of playing them over and over again, too. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>:-), I see you&#039;re a big &quot;fan&quot;. Do you prefer Horowitz then?</p></blockquote></div><p>I notice that you have a M-Audio 610 I/O.&nbsp; I have a M-Audio 410.&nbsp; The five Pianoteq mic outputs remain separated out and thru the 410 to five separate audio amps and speakers. The sound is really good . .&nbsp; much improved presence.&nbsp; Have you experimented with a similar set-up (?).</p></blockquote></div><p>Regretfully no - my original motivation in buying the M-Audio 610&nbsp; was to record more than 2 analog channels simultaneously. But I haven&#039;t put it to much use since. Still I would like to hear about your sound setup. I used to use a single RCF 410-Art A monitor for live performance (small Jazz gigs), but it has never quite cut through the way I wanted it to - Pianoteq always sounded better in cheap stereo headphones.</p><p>-- Eran</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[etalmor]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-03-27T12:10:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>etalmor wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>rlburnside wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&quot;- make my crappy classical reading sound like Vladimir Ashkenazy,&quot;</p><p>Don&#039;t need PTQ 4 for that ! Pretty much you just need to play all your repertoire as if you&#039;re in a hurry to go to the bathroom, as mechanically and with as little soul as humanly possible. It helps if you&#039;re sick of playing them over and over again, too. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>:-), I see you&#039;re a big &quot;fan&quot;. Do you prefer Horowitz then?</p></blockquote></div><p>I notice that you have a M-Audio 610 I/O.&nbsp; I have a M-Audio 410.&nbsp; The five Pianoteq mic outputs remain separated out and thru the 410 to five separate audio amps and speakers. The sound is really good . .&nbsp; much improved presence.&nbsp; Have you experimented with a similar set-up (?).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[LTECpiano]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-03-27T11:20:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>rlburnside wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&quot;- make my crappy classical reading sound like Vladimir Ashkenazy,&quot;</p><p>Don&#039;t need PTQ 4 for that ! Pretty much you just need to play all your repertoire as if you&#039;re in a hurry to go to the bathroom, as mechanically and with as little soul as humanly possible. It helps if you&#039;re sick of playing them over and over again, too. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>:-), I see you&#039;re a big &quot;fan&quot;. Do you prefer Horowitz then?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[etalmor]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-03-27T09:10:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>&quot;- make my crappy classical reading sound like Vladimir Ashkenazy,&quot;</p><p>Don&#039;t need PTQ 4 for that ! Pretty much you just need to play all your repertoire as if you&#039;re in a hurry to go to the bathroom, as mechanically and with as little soul as humanly possible. It helps if you&#039;re sick of playing them over and over again, too. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rlburnside]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-03-27T05:02:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;d love to have a virtual pianist inside the virtual piano so I can stop to play crappy things and just listen to my song building by itself wonderfully <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[etto]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-03-16T17:07:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>olepro wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>He. He. He. <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p> to which prediction <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>None. <i class="far fa-grin-tongue-squint smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-03-16T12:28:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not interested (really) in presets or DSP that will allow me to &quot;put my piano in virtual rooms&quot;.&nbsp; I have some very nice plugins that can handle that.&nbsp; What I want is a fundamental improvement in the source tone of the sound.&nbsp; One that just sounds like a natural piano.&nbsp; I&#039;ll take it from there in my DAW.</p><p>I think what most customers of virtual pianos expect is a product that will give them perfectly EQ&#039;d and master-quality results right out of the box.&nbsp; I think if any of them actually heard the room sound of their favorite recorded piano before it was processed for final master, they&#039;d be a little shocked!</p><p>Curt</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-03-16T11:20:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I predict PTQ 4 will:<br />- make my crappy classical reading sound like Vladimir Ashkenazy,<br />- make a decent cup of Cappuccino (midi assignable, of course ...)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[etalmor]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-03-16T11:01:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>He. He. He. <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p> to which prediction <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[olepro]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-03-16T10:20:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>grimborg wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;d love to have shortcuts so I can change some presets and settings without having to look at the laptop screen.</p></blockquote></div><p>You can do that in Pianoteq 3 already... You can have keyboard shortcuts for previous/next instrument and previous/next preset, as well as assign any MIDI message (but I suggest Program Change) to any preset in the Preset Manager...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-03-16T09:16:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pianoteq Version 4 Predictions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;d love to have shortcuts so I can change some presets and settings without having to look at the laptop screen.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2012-03-16T08:55:28Z</updated>
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