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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=19438#p19438</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ecaroh,</p><p>I didn&#039;t have the chance to &#039;test drive&#039; one either but it really does have a great action. There&#039;s a very good piano store near where I work and I often go in to play on their pianos. They only deal in Yamaha&#039;s so I can&#039;t comment on Roland but I got a chance to play on everything from the cheapest to the grandest (excuse the pun) and it feels as good as, if not better, than some of the £3k models and even against the Avant Grande N2 it compares nicely, especially when you consider how much it costs. </p><p>So, for the price and just as a controller for Pianoteq I&#039;d say you can&#039;t beat it.</p><p>I should say now that I&#039;m by no means a great pianist so maybe others on here can give better advice. Someone already mentioned the Roland 700NX but it is about twice the price - I&#039;ve not played it so can&#039;t really comment any further.</p><p>Hope that&#039;s of some help.</p><p>Murray.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi everybody,</p><p>In my town (and in my country I think) there&#039;s no chance to testdrive this Numa Nero. So is it so good as you say? I saw that you can get b-stock unit from Thomann for 990euros, which is not very much for a good piano controller. How would compare Numa Nero to for example PhaIII (Roland 700Nx / V-piano) or to Kawai MP8, which are considered as best ones the market.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just an update.</p><p>I finally got my Numa Nero. </p><p>Well, what can I say - It&#039;s incredible. The body isn&#039;t glossy like all the ones I&#039;ve seen in other review so I assume it&#039;s a new model. None of the flaws read on here or anywhere else are present. No weird random velocity or unexpected midi signals.</p><p>I really couldn&#039;t be happier with it. It makes my old Roland feel like a toy and has made pianoteq even more enjoyable to play now that I can achieve more subtle dynamics.</p><p>I&#039;m still getting to grips with the sort of curve I need. Reading the curve page on this site some people suggested leaving it linear and using the &#039;you play&#039; feature so I&#039;ll look into that to try and get even more out of his amazing board.</p><p>Thanks again to all you guys for your help and for anyone considering a new midi controller, I can&#039;t recommend this one enough.</p><p>Murray.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all your help Chris.</p><p>I&#039;ll let you know how I get on.</p><p>And thanks to everyone else who posted.</p><p>Regards.</p><p>Murray.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Here you go Murray</p><p><a href="http://lib.roland.co.jp/support/en/manuals/res/50289497/RPU-3_je02_W.pdf">http://lib.roland.co.jp/support/en/manu...je02_W.pdf</a></p><p>Give the .pdf a few seconds to fully load</p><p>Hope this helps</p><p>Regards,</p><p>Chris</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mtruelove wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>do any of the other Roland pedals work I only use two if I&#039;m honest.</p><p><a href="http://www.thomann.de/gb/roland_rpu3.htm">http://www.thomann.de/gb/roland_rpu3.htm</a></p><p>The Roland with maybe only 2 plugged in?</p><p>Thanks.</p><p>Murray.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, go for the Roland as you suggest. I&#039;ll double check compatability, but I&#039;m pretty sure it will be as the DP-10 in this regard. RPU3 in continuous on all pedals. Very good.</p><p>Regards,</p><p>Chris</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow, they make something to&nbsp; accommodate a pianist in terms of action, getting rid of all functions except for those suited to a piano playing but don&#039;t think they&#039;ll want pedals?</p><p>Sorry to rant, just seems like a large over-sight.</p><p>I have a dp-10 at the moment and it&#039;s always moving around, do any of the other Roland pedals work I only use two if I&#039;m honest.</p><p>Any chance that either of these might work?</p><p><a href="http://www.thomann.de/gb/fatar_vfp215m.htm">http://www.thomann.de/gb/fatar_vfp215m.htm</a><br /><a href="http://www.thomann.de/gb/roland_rpu3.htm">http://www.thomann.de/gb/roland_rpu3.htm</a></p><p>The Roland with maybe only 2 plugged in?</p><p>Thanks.</p><p>Murray.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mtruelove wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think I might just get the Numa Nero. The PNOscan could always be something for the future.</p><p>Thank you guys for your suggestions.</p><p>One final questions, I&#039;m a little confused about which pedal to buy:</p><p>FATAR VFP-3-10 or FATAR VFP-3-15 they seem the same except one is open and the other closed. And am I right in thinking it works with the sustain being graded and the una corda and sostenuto being on/off and is this ok?</p><p>Thanks again.</p><p>Murray.</p></blockquote></div><p>Neither will work with the NUMA Nero actually. I used a Roland DP-10 Contiuous Sustain Pedal before I installed the PNOscan system. I bought the VFP-3/15 to use with PNOscan as it is the easiest model to fit the PNOscan sensors into (see pics above). There are two assignable 1/4 jack pedal sockets on the Nero. If you wish to use a soft pedal also, my advice would be to buy two Roland DP-10 pedals, one for continuous damper/sustain, one for una corda/soft.</p><p>Re: forum email, I bought my NUMA Nero from Thomann.de. The Fatar VFP-3/15 came from there also. The service I have had from Thomann.de has always been brilliant. Fair prices also. Very efficient.</p><p>Hope this helps,</p><p>Regards,</p><p>Chris</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think I might just get the Numa Nero. The PNOscan could always be something for the future.</p><p>Thank you guys for your suggestions.</p><p>One final questions, I&#039;m a little confused about which pedal to buy:</p><p>FATAR VFP-3-10 or FATAR VFP-3-15 they seem the same except one is open and the other closed. And am I right in thinking it works with the sustain being graded and the una corda and sostenuto being on/off and is this ok?</p><p>Thanks again.</p><p>Murray.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>skip wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Does TP40WOOD action (or others in the series) have the offset pins? (sorry if I am not using the right terminology)</p></blockquote></div><p>No it doesn&#039;t Greg. I have had to allow for that in the calibration. However, Fatar have designed it to give the feel of the increased throw of a grand piano keyboard.</p><p>Regards,</p><p>Chris</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mtruelove wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It sounds amazing I just wonder if what&#039;s involved is a bit beyond me, I have trouble with Ikea furniture. </p><p>Maybe I&#039;m better off just buying the Numa Nero? </p><p>Unless anyone has any other suggestions.&nbsp; </p><p>Thanks.</p></blockquote></div><p>My advice, in your price range, go for the Nero, then at least you&#039;ve got a very fine action with the added option of adding a PNOscan if you every wanted to in the future???</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>for me action of RD700GX or NX its absolutely best on the market.<br />You feel like playing real piano but it is almost twice as expensive unfortunately.<br />Fatar action is good but no way close. RD series don&#039;t have really that much bell and whistles, Kawai as well. SOme additional sounds that&#039;s all. I&#039;d place kawai action<br />second after roland, they both joy to put hands on.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys for the suggestions but both are bit over budget - I would spend the extra if it made a big difference. Do they have a better action/feel/touch than the Numa Nero? They also seem to have a lot of &#039;bell-and-whistles&#039; that I really don&#039;t think I&#039;d need.</p><p>What do you guys think?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I use excellent Roland RD700GX as my main controller, far better then any fatar keybed.<br />It does have escapement and imitation of ivory.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think my ideal controller might be a Kawai MP10 with a PNOScan, especially now that I know that PNOScan does double escapement - this would make up for the lack of a tri-sensor action on the Kawais.&nbsp; I have learnt that the MP10 has offset pins for the black keys, so that the pivoting length of the black keys is the same as the white keys.&nbsp; This appeals to me.&nbsp; Mind you, buying a top of the line instrument like the MP10 and then dinking with it would be a pretty tall order for most of us I&#039;d imagine!</p><p>Does TP40WOOD action (or others in the series) have the offset pins? (sorry if I am not using the right terminology)</p><p>Greg.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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