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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fatar TP40WOOD  DIY?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well the extra keybed pricelist is somewhat hidden:</p><p><a href="http://www.doepfer.de/Preisliste_Tastaturen.pdf">http://www.doepfer.de/Preisliste_Tastaturen.pdf</a></p><p>;-)</p><p>However no extra support. To be sure you should inquire whether their electronics support all the enlisted fatar keybeds.</p><p>@Chris: as far as i know studiologic uses its own &quot;solid&quot; electronics</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[HermanVanAartsen]]></name>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>HermanVanAartsen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Have a look at the website of doepfer.de. They sell different kinds of Fatar keybeds as DIY. As far as I know they are also selling the right interface kit to connect the keyboard with midi or usb. These interface kits are doepfer-brand so very solid ;-)</p><p>With regards,<br />Herman</p></blockquote></div><p>Lots of synth-type keybeds and boards, but not the piano types. Bummer.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2011-07-11T23:37:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fatar TP40WOOD  DIY?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>HermanVanAartsen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Have a look at the website of doepfer.de. They sell different kinds of Fatar keybeds as DIY. As far as I know they are also selling the right interface kit to connect the keyboard with midi or usb. These interface kits are doepfer-brand so very solid ;-)</p><p>With regards,<br />Herman</p></blockquote></div><p>Herman,</p><p>I thought Fatar got their electronics from Doepfer?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2011-07-11T20:11:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fatar TP40WOOD  DIY?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Have a look at the website of doepfer.de. They sell different kinds of Fatar keybeds as DIY. As far as I know they are also selling the right interface kit to connect the keyboard with midi or usb. These interface kits are doepfer-brand so very solid ;-)</p><p>With regards,<br />Herman</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[HermanVanAartsen]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-07-11T18:57:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sigasa wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Tinknocker wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Don&#039;t know how I&#039;d explain it to the missus....8-(</p></blockquote></div><p>Tell her that some mice ate the other one!</p><p>Seriously, how about buying the TP40WOOD and fitting a PNOscan Optical Sensor Strip as I intend to do eventually. This will provide all necessary midi to PianoTeq without the glitchy Fatar/Doepfer electronics (see here what I mean: <a href="http://www.proaudioe.com/pages/nord-tech-support-usa/keybeds.php).">http://www.proaudioe.com/pages/nord-tec...beds.php).</a> The PNOscan strip is the most accutate and reliable strip available, and as an owner of PianoTeq, a 20% discount is avaiable.</p><p>The TP40WOOD truly is a beautiful feeling keybed, and yes, Fatar&#039;s best. All that lets the NUMA Nero down is the elcectronics as you know.</p><p>Regards,</p><p>Chris</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t know that PNOscan is doable with Fatar keybed. It is designed specifically for acoustic piano mechanism. Looking at the Fatar diagrams it just doesn&#039;t seem like it would work. PNOscan is about $1300, the sensor strips for Fatar are $155. I&#039;m also not certain that the optical sensors would produce any real benefit. Having no physical contact, they should last longer, but would be more susceptible to dirt. </p><p>Any mainboard calibrated to the same sensor strip as the Fatar would probably work. I don&#039;t have any glitch problems with my SL-990xp. Bear in mind that I do not use any of the controls, other than the on/off switch. I even disconnected the mod/pitch wheels when I lacquered the case. I have no velocity issues at all, perhaps because the xp model does not have any velocity controls: can&#039;t mess up what you don&#039;t have. </p><p>The keybed, sl990-xp mainboard, and sensor strips come out to $869. I paid $50 more for my xp than the strips and board cost.&nbsp; It is a _very_ nice looking board since I refinished it in black lacquer. Since I don&#039;t use any of the controls I had considered removing or grinding down the buttons and filling in the well for the wheels with Bondo and making it even purtier. If I were to replace the keybed with the TP40wood, I&#039;d definitely go that way.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2011-07-11T17:19:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fatar TP40WOOD  DIY?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tinknocker wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Don&#039;t know how I&#039;d explain it to the missus....8-(</p></blockquote></div><p>Tell her that some mice ate the other one!</p><p>Seriously, how about buying the TP40WOOD and fitting a PNOscan Optical Sensor Strip as I intend to do eventually. This will provide all necessary midi to PianoTeq without the glitchy Fatar/Doepfer electronics (see here what I mean: <a href="http://www.proaudioe.com/pages/nord-tech-support-usa/keybeds.php).">http://www.proaudioe.com/pages/nord-tec...beds.php).</a> The PNOscan strip is the most accutate and reliable strip available, and as an owner of PianoTeq, a 20% discount is avaiable.</p><p>The TP40WOOD truly is a beautiful feeling keybed, and yes, Fatar&#039;s best. All that lets the NUMA Nero down is the elcectronics as you know.</p><p>Regards,</p><p>Chris</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2011-07-11T07:42:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Everybody seems to love the keyboard on the Numa Nero, but the number of reported problems with the electronics is kind of off putting, to say the least. </p><p>Suppose you could have The Nero keyboard without all the problematic electronics?</p><p>Poking around the web, I find that the Midi-Store has the&nbsp; Fatar TP40Wood Keybed Assembly for $529.<br />They also have mainboards for the SL990&#039;s for $185. I&#039;m guessing that that mainboard would work with the TP40Wood. An even better solution would be the mainboard for Doepfer&#039;s PK88. No buttons at all, sends only on midi channel 1, and has USB power and connections for two pedals and supports half pedaling.</p><p>I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the TP40Wood could be used as a drop in replacement for the TP40GH in my SL990. Don&#039;t know how I&#039;d explain it to the missus....8-(</p>]]></content>
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