this maybe a little off topic, but I'm just reading the numa nero having splitzones. What can you do with them?
have other velocity settings on them? send on a different midi channel? does it have aftertouch btw?

Yes, you can do quite a bit of splitting/zoning/layering and that includes parameters like aftertouch. A quick look at the manual shows velocity maps too (for zones), but I have never done that myself.

So how is it now? Those velocity problems are still taking place?
Because if it's firmware then they're should be fixed already.

I have not played very much since posting the above but so far no more velocity problems have occured. I did play for about 30 minutes last week and had no issues whatsoever. And the problem I had only showed up once or twice, I would get maybe one or two weird velocity increases in, say, a 30 minute stretch. My keyboard is in transit now as I've moved overseas for two years so I won't be able to do anymore tests until mid September. I will say that if, by chance, my keyboard get's lost at sea, I would not let this issue keep me from buying another Numa.

I had the latest firmware (1.7) out of the box.

I have come to the conclusion that the cause of the 'irregular velocities' and other strange phenomenon with Studiologic keys is that they are NOT MAGNETICALLY SHEILDED!!!

Chris,
So I now, for the first time, have been playing with my laptop and Presonus audio interface sitting on top of my Numa Nero and have started getting random velocity increases on single notes, maybe one or so every half hour on average. I'm going to try moving them off to a table and see if this fixes everything.

Hey, have you ever updated the firmware on your Numa? Did that do anything for you?

-Chris

In explanation, and I think I've addressed this before somewhere, I all factory curves, there is a huge discrepency between black and white keys, whites being much louder than blacks. AND there is no way to change this OTHER THAN CREATING YOUR OWN 'YOUPLAY' CURVE(S)!

So, if you haven't yet done so, either create your own YOUPLAY curve or use my .RES File.

I'll post the link in an edit in a short while.

http://www.filehosting.org/file/details...ckup_1.RES

alternatively, contact me via the forum e-mail service and I'll send you the file.

I too can run USB without power adapter no problem. Asio4all is fine too. I tested in isolation. Only problem experienced was the odd high/full velocity random shoot whilst playing... wait for it... sloppy repetitions!!! Must practice those eh!

No other problems to report.

regards,

Chris

I'm going to hook it up to my laptop via usb and stick headphones in my laptop phones socket running PianoTeq through the PC's internal soundcard run with ASIO4ALL.

I don't seem to experience the velocity issues you mention. The USB power allows me to run the Nero without the power adapter. I do not use ASIO4All currently, but I have used it in the past without problems (other than a bit of overhead).

In terms of my settings, I have a separate patch for piano (aftertouch is OFF) and my velocity preset is the factory "MED".

Have you tried an EMF meter?

I'll report results soon.

p.s. Do you have any idea how I could magnetically sheild it if need be?

regards,

Chris

just tried your suggestion. Everything worked after a fashion, but getting some kind of smooth response from the aftertouch on the Nero was almost impossible!!!

I argued with Fatar that it is the software, but more than likely it's too cumbersome to use those big weighted keys for that purpose effectively. I still think they could fix it in software by offsetting the values...

For piano, no. However, I frequently record other parts (bass, guitar, synth, etc.) and I need it for expression. I also use a foot pedal for modulation and that gives me full range, but I would like to be able to get 0-127 AFT smoothly from the keyboard itself. As I mentioned, it seems to be getting better with use. It would be so easy to just change a setting to use the consistent 'sweet spot' though.

I don't seem to have any of the issues you mentioned, but I don't have it too close to other equipment right now. In terms of my opinion, it is a pleasure to use. I tried many and this was the best IMO. It's all in the discrete velocity curves...and the wooden keys do make a difference.

I do seem to suffer from the occasional stuck note, but I am assuming that is software related. It is so rare that I forget about it and just play though.

My range is something like 0-120, and it does what I want it to do...except stay in one place! I had to supplement mine with a rubber mat. I'll have to look at the DP-10.

It's the best IMO.

just tried your suggestion. Everything worked after a fashion, but getting some kind of smooth response from the aftertouch on the Nero was almost impossible!!!

I'm happy with or without this feature on my keyboard of choice as for playing piano repetoire, I don't see why I'd need it? After all, aftertouch on the Nero DOES require alot of pressure to get the higher/lower values (higher or lower depending on polarity).

I don't want to put my fingers through that kind of abuse! There probably are proper techniques on executing aftertouch as with anything else, but as I said, I don't need it for the time being.

How is your NUMA Nero performing in general? Any problems with extreme velocities whilst playing normally? Any other problems with it?
Also, are you still getting good range with the Roland DP-8 Pedal? I got one of those because of your description of using one with the Nero. Mine works very very well. Actually I bought the new model, the DP-10. It has the flip out rubber heel platform to stop the pedal waltzing of during performance.

When all is said and done concerning the NUMA Nero, no-one would deny it has such a good touch. My piano teacher saw it for the first time a month or so ago. He examins all over the world for the associated boards (ABRSM). One of the first things he said about it was 'It's good a very good action'. That coming from him is worth heeding!

Anyhow, I love the touch of the Nero, and in actual fact, I bore your words on your experience with the NUMA (White) and NUMA Nero when choosing to purchase the latter.

Thank you,

Kind regards,

Chris

Is there an aftertouch curve that can be adjusted in PianoTeq such that #40 = 0 and #127 = 127?

I will now go and try out the 'Tremelo thing'!

Regards,

Chris

p.s., certainly no linear response!!!

johnrule wrote:

How is your after-touch working Chris?

John, I've never used it! I only ever play PianoTeq.
Does PianoTeq support it in any way?

Yes, Pianoteq supports aftertouch. You need to add it as a controller in the Options/Midi section:

- Choose 'Insert" (at the bottom)
- Click on 'Invalid' to change it to 'Channel Pressure (aftertouch)'
- Click on the blank field and select 'Set Parameter/Tremelo Depth' (or something useful)

You can also watch the aftertouch values come in using the midi monitor in that same section. See if you can get a linear response between 0 and 40.

If you don't feel like messing with this just ignore...

How is your after-touch working Chris?

John, I've never used it! I only ever play PianoTeq.
Does PianoTeq support it in any way?

Glad you find the posts helpful,

Regards,

Chris

By the way, I read all of your 'Numa' posts, so they are appreciated!