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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Powered Speaker solution for Digital Pianos]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the informations.</p><p>:-)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-10-01T00:23:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Powered Speaker solution for Digital Pianos]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, it was not a guess: I&#039;m recording classical music since almost 30 years. I should know ! :-)))<br />a few examples:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW0uVAWwWxo">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW0uVAWwWxo</a><br />or this one:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX9xsK2XAM0">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX9xsK2XAM0</a><br />or this:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OuY0dtgZY8">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OuY0dtgZY8</a><br />you get the picture ! (literally)</p><p>All recordings made with just 2 mics and no headphones (for the musicians, that is !).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Luc Henrion]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-30T05:55:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Powered Speaker solution for Digital Pianos]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Luc Henrion wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Classical musicians very often DON&#039;T use headphones. Thay hate this! And if they do, it is most probably for a movie score, where they need to follow cues.</p></blockquote></div><p>I completely agree with your assessment, Luc.&nbsp; If you note the excessive number of microphones in this photo, this particular session is not for a performance of classical music repertoire.&nbsp; This is either movie score material (with click track), background music of an advertisement, or making a track for Yanni or music of that ilk -- that requires no conductor.&nbsp; The supposed additions of &quot;expression&quot; and reverb will be post processed at a later time in Pro Tools.</p><p>Aside:&nbsp; Look at the general lack of musical expression on the faces of these performers as they &quot;saw&quot; away on their instruments.&nbsp; Look at the brick wall within 10 or 20 feet of the performers -- further evidence of reverb and soundstage panning to be subsequently convolved into the music.&nbsp; Look at the discomfort of the cellist, at the far right of the photograph, in terms of the way he positioned the uncomfortable &#039;phones on his head.&nbsp; Ahh, music making at its finest!</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Joe</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-09-29T14:04:28Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Classical musicians very often DON&#039;T use headphones. Thay hate this! And if they do, it is most probably for a movie score, where they need to follow cues.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Luc Henrion]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-29T07:30:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My guess would be the headphones are so they can hear conductor cues, metronome, etc. that they don&#039;t want to record.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-09-29T06:29:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Powered Speaker solution for Digital Pianos]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Beto-Music wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>A little subject change now... </p><p>Why classical musicians record (play for recording) using headphones?</p><br /><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://images.static-bluray.com/reviews/8804_7_large.jpg" alt="PunBB bbcode test" title="PunBB bbcode test"/></span> </p><br /><p>If that helps each one to heard better what they are playing (let&#039;s supose), would also help in a formal presentation?</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Speaking of &quot;classical&quot; ... Would this be considered a classic case of thread hijacking ?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-09-29T03:17:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Powered Speaker solution for Digital Pianos]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A little subject change now... </p><p>Why classical musicians record (play for recording) using headphones?</p><br /><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://images.static-bluray.com/reviews/8804_7_large.jpg" alt="PunBB bbcode test" title="PunBB bbcode test"/></span> </p><br /><p>If that helps each one to heard better what they are playing (let&#039;s supose), would also help in a formal presentation?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-29T01:34:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Powered Speaker solution for Digital Pianos]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Beto-Music wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Interesting how a Baby Grand piano sound less powerful, to the player perspective, than a upright.<br />Indeed the soundboard of a upright it&#039;s larger in area than one of a baby Grand.</p><p>The future of digital piano sound system it&#039;s in transducer activated soundboard.</p></blockquote></div><p>I also think that soundbords have a huge potential for DPs. The Kawai CA95/CS10 have this, and that makes a big difference, but I was somewhat skeptical (couldn&#039;t gather enough actual information about this) how well it could work together with an external sound source like Pianoteq.&nbsp; (I could test this with a predecessor model, a CA93 , that sounded not very convincing.) So I decided to go for a CA65 with external monitors to have a more distributed sound source. </p><p>I have also a very nice, tall old upright, with a wonderful full and rich sound. Playing it is a superb experience. The sound is much fuller, than what my previous baby grand had (August Förster).</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-09-27T17:33:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Powered Speaker solution for Digital Pianos]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Interesting how a Baby Grand piano sound less powerfull, to the player perpective, than a upright.<br />Indeed the soundboard of a upright it&#039;s larger in área than one of a baby Grand.</p><br /><br /><p>The future of digital piano sound system it&#039;s in transducer activated soundboard.</p><br /><p>By the Way... Steinway created a new brand, Essex,, and they clain that have increased the soundboard área, compared to another grand piano of the same length, to improve the sound.</p><br /><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFmQ70l-0I8">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFmQ70l-0I8</a></p><br /><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Luc Henrion wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Of course, just kidding !<br />More seriously: when I play Pianoteq side-by-side with my own grand piano, I&#039;m always amazed by how high I have to push my monitors to get a similar level... A real grand is a serious beast !<br />And, on a side note, I don&#039;t feel the need to push the monitors so high when I just play Pianoteq... The feeling is not the same anyway and it will probably never be, unless the sound comes from the keyboard itself !</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-27T13:33:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Of course, just kidding !<br />More seriously: when I play Pianoteq side-by-side with my own grand piano, I&#039;m always amazed by how high I have to push my monitors to get a similar level... A real grand is a serious beast !<br />And, on a side note, I don&#039;t feel the need to push the monitors so high when I just play Pianoteq... The feeling is not the same anyway and it will probably never be, unless the sound comes from the keyboard itself !</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Luc Henrion]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-27T06:54:39Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>But to play in low volume, like lower than a real piano would sound, it&#039;s not very pleasant.</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Luc Henrion wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>just an answer: there is a volume control you very rarely see on a real piano ! :-)))</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-09-26T18:46:47Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>just an answer: there is a volume control you very rarely see on a real piano ! :-)))</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Luc Henrion]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-26T07:06:18Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just a question, if you allow me:</p><p>Do people around complain about the sound, while you use such sound monitors, in the same way they would complain if you have a grand piano in home?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-09-25T13:16:32Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Try QSC K10, ( <a href="http://www.thomann.de/gb/qsc_k_10.htm?sid=321e438de4f1a5c2f34f7d486b519205">http://www.thomann.de/gb/qsc_k_10.htm?s...486b519205</a> ) - they are enough compact, clear sound &amp; have 1000w &amp; peak power 2000w . Bose L1 Compact is not good for piano, - too much &quot;plastic&quot; &amp; peak distorted. Bose L1 model II is ok.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-09-25T10:10:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Craig,</p><p>I read with interest your post about the Australian Monitor ST50P speakers.&nbsp; I have (among other dp&#039;s) a Kawai MP4 for gigs but have been struggling to get a good sound&nbsp; out of them.&nbsp; I actually purchased a Bose L1 Compact but have not been entirely happy with the sound with a digital piano.</p><p>I tried to get hold of ST50P&#039;s in response to your post, but AM don&#039;t make them anymore, but make the AMPAV30 and AMPAV40.&nbsp; Their catalogue refers to an AMPAV50, but I have confirmed that this is a typo and the 40 watt is the highest.&nbsp; I obtained a demo pair and tried them out.&nbsp; I liked the sound very much but am concerned that 40watt won&#039;t be enough for a small, noisy venue.</p><p>I would very much like to know what your experience has been using the ST50P&#039;s for gigs and whether they have enough power, and whether you think the AMPAV40 might have sufficient power.</p><p>I was also interested to see that you previously tried the Yamaha Stagepas system.&nbsp; I actually have a Yamaha Stagepas 300.&nbsp; The digital piano doesn&#039;t sound bad through them in my opinion, but I would like to know your view as to how the Stagepas compares to the ST50P&#039;s in terms ofdigital piano sound.&nbsp; </p><p>I would also like to use Pianoteq through the sound system.</p><p>Thank you in anticipation.</p><p>Tony</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-09-25T03:33:21Z</updated>
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