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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Feature request: brain wave midi manipulation (!?)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ToneF wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Still, brain conditioning, labotomies, pavlovian response, and stockholm syndrome, etc exemplify the already very real techniques of removing any trace of human individuality.</p><p>This new technology could go even further, I fear. It could either be of immense benefit, or disastrous malevolence to humanity.</p></blockquote></div><p>On a happier note,&nbsp; has it not occurred to you that you possess the technology to follow in the footsteps of Messiaen? Something like <em>Le merle noir</em> to start with, perhaps. Almost all Digital Audio Workstation software has the capability to change the replay speed of a sound sample, which makes transcription of birdsong an almost mechanical exercise. The charm of course is that birds are free from brain conditioning, labotomies, pavlovian response, and stockholm syndrome.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[hyper.real]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-03-14T21:19:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Feature request: brain wave midi manipulation (!?)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Shannon&#039;s Theorem suggests to me that the frequencies of brain-waves are too low to carry musically interesting information.</p><p>I now have to go away to think how to prove that.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[hyper.real]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-03-14T20:59:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Feature request: brain wave midi manipulation (!?)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I guess once technology becomes sufficiently advanced, it will become possible to read minds, and see and hear and even feel exactly the same as the person who&#039;s mind is being read.</p><p>The idea of such devices overriding free-will is scary. Almost anything&#039;s possible, I suppose, but I don&#039;t think that free-will will ever be allowed to be subsumed by technology unless it falls into the hands of absolute tyranny.</p><p>Still, brain conditioning, labotomies, pavlovian response, and stockholm syndrome, etc exemplify the already very real techniques of removing any trace of human individuality.</p><p>This new technology could go even further, I fear. It could either be of immense benefit, or disastrous malevolence to humanity. But then, it is no different to any previous potentially constructive or destructive breakthroughs in scientific and technology.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ToneF]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-03-13T12:24:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The day we could creat symphonic sounds direct with our brains, maybe a lot of people will be capable of creat a symphony.</p><p>Perhaps a lot of the intelligence that people talk about, are mostly a translate conversion ability. A ability to translate thoughts to movements and notes on a paper.</p><p>Well... what I mean is that everyone imagine music. Maybe some people, despite of do not know music theories etc...&nbsp; have a imagination to potential built beautiful music.</p><p>The danger of brain command devices is that, if today, with cerebral washing and global retardation be already so intense with just image and sounds...&nbsp; &nbsp;What will be when they start to put brain comands on things?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-03-12T18:40:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Feature request: brain wave midi manipulation (!?)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nice one, Beto!</p><p>I lolled at that, I have to admit <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>For sure, Sigasa, there will always be a place for traditional instruments and manual labour.</p><p>But much in the same way that the piano was a technical marvel for its time, I&#039;m certain that the evolution of such devices could accommodate both styles of play! Perhaps even at the same time?!</p><p>Now that would be marvellous! </p><p>Imagine having a symphony being created on the fly by your brain, and your hands and feet all over keys and pedals of a Grand!</p><p>Crikey, now that would require a lot of processing power! And I&#039;m not just talkin&#039; &#039;bout Intel&#039;s latest Core I7000! Such a feat would probably trigger the next stage in human evolution!</p><p>Can I be any more exclamatory!?</p><p>Probably not.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2011-03-11T18:49:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Funny Beto, your pics are always hilarious!!!</p><p>In answer to the threads question, it&#039;s possible even if not probable!!!</p><p>To be absolutely honest, part of the thrill of playing an instrument is, er, playing the instrument!!! I love it when I have made a piece so much part of me that it just<br />feels so beautiful under my fingers. I for one would not want to bother creating music with my head!</p><p>Also I think that is part of the reason we all seek the &#039;best piano action/best PianoTeq sound etc.. We wish to create/recreate the experience as closely as possible to that of playing a real flesh and bone piano! [No jokes please Beto!!! <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i>]</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sigasa]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-03-11T09:40:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Such idea would require a auxiliar device:</p><br /><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://mimg.ugo.com/200911/12075/cuts/spocks-brain-mccoy-helmet_288x288.jpg" alt="PunBB bbcode test" title="PunBB bbcode test"/></span> </p><br /><p>Modartt team is in reunion, thinking about it right now:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3594/3577553434_b1395bd00e.jpg" alt="PunBB bbcode test" title="PunBB bbcode test"/></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-03-10T22:49:54Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>In line with some of my more outlandish requests, I have been thinking of the possiblities technology might bring to music performance and creation.</p><p>This is not a genuine request for a pianoteq feature now, but rather an exploration of music unihibited by the limits of physicality and timbre that current non-virtual instruments impose.</p><p>So, is anyone a bit more knowledgeable on the subject of neuro-muso-science? And would anyone know of any studies relating to the brain&#039;s pitch recognition?</p><p>A quick search reveals IVBA Interactive Brainwave Visual Analyser</p><p>I haven&#039;t a clue how good this is: <a href="http://www.ibva.co.uk/Templates/music.htm">http://www.ibva.co.uk/Templates/music.htm</a></p><p>Theoretically such a device could be used with pianoteq. But whether it&#039;s currently accurate enough to pick up and translate rhythm, pace and also multiple notes I do not know. </p><p>Although I&#039;m gradually getting better at actually playing the keys, most of the music I can imagine is lost in the translation. </p><p>Some day I hope we&#039;ll all be able to perform concertos with our eyes closed and arms crossed, in, ooh I dunno - &quot;Encephaloteq&quot;?</p><p>Any thoughts?</p><br /><p>-Tony</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ToneF]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-03-10T17:33:21Z</updated>
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