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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing Yamaha action with Fatar, is it doable?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Shumas wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Be careful before trying to do that , better get service manuals &amp; study schematic diagrams .</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks, I&#039;ve decided to forego the pleasure <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-02-19T22:27:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing Yamaha action with Fatar, is it doable?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Be careful before trying to do that , better get service manuals &amp; study schematic diagrams .</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Shumas]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-02-19T20:49:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing Yamaha action with Fatar, is it doable?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p><p>Thank you for your kind word of welcome. If you have questions about (re)building a piano you&#039;re more than welcome. I&#039;ve actually tried to build one myself from scratch using a Fatar key-bed and later on a Yamaha P-85 key-bed. Unfortunately this costly mission failed (for both key-beds) but I&#039;m on a Kawai now, which I&#039;m more than happy with.</p><p>Regards,<br />Herman</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[HermanVanAartsen]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-02-15T22:50:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing Yamaha action with Fatar, is it doable?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Herman,</p><p>Thanks for the information. There&#039;s a LOT more to consider than I realized. Oh well, back to the drawing board <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>By the way, welcome to the forum!</p><p>Regards,<br />Michael</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-02-15T15:26:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing Yamaha action with Fatar, is it doable?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,</p><p>Getting the values of key-presses is normally done by matrix-scan. This should be independent of the brand but actually there can be a difference how the matrix is split and hence the need of distinct (proprietary) electronics. So it is hard to predict if it works. I know for example that the key-beds of Fatar can be interchanged. But even then, please note that there can be key-bed specific functionality (like after touch) that isn&#039;t supported by the electronic that belongs to the interchanged key-bed and vice versa.</p><p>But.....I&#039;ve owned a P85 and had a Fatar DIY keybed from Doepfer. I think they can be interchanged because they use the same key-switches (maybe some soldering and please check differences in voltages / resistances) but, like you already said, things really to consider are:<br />- different positions of screw-holes<br />- different dimensions, especially height and depth<br />- different electronics size</p><p>But it depends on what you are going to interchange ;-)</p><p>Cheers,<br />Herman</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[HermanVanAartsen]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-02-15T07:42:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Probably not possible.</p></blockquote></div><p>Why not?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-02-11T18:03:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing Yamaha action with Fatar, is it doable?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Probably not possible.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-02-11T18:01:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Replacing Yamaha action with Fatar, is it doable?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if the connectors are similar for all midi keyboards. I&#039;m considering replacing my Yamaha P85&#039;s keyboard action with that of my Fatar VMK188plus.&nbsp; Reason: the Yamaha electronics are more reliable, but the Fatar keyboard action is better.</p><p>Does anyone know if the connectors are similar for all midi keyboards? I know that ribbon cables have been used by Fatar in the past, and a small older Yamaha I have uses something similar. Aside from the physical dimensions etc, that would be my main concern.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-02-11T17:38:32Z</updated>
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