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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Kovács cimbalom and realism]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=15482#p15482</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I love kantele <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p><br /><p>You might want to <a href="http://www.ajatarsampling.com/">check this out</a>, if you have Kontakt. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><br /><p>Good luck with saving up for the upgrade, you&#039;ll need it! <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>I have that already, hehe. Surprising that a free instrument sounds that good, no?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Kovács cimbalom and realism]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=15468#p15468</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I love kantele <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p><br /><p>You might want to <a href="http://www.ajatarsampling.com/">check this out</a>, if you have Kontakt. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><br /><p>Good luck with saving up for the upgrade, you&#039;ll need it! <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (EvilDragon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 10:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Kovács cimbalom and realism]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=15464#p15464</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yes, it has something to do with it. That feature is available on Standard and Pro versions, but not on Play version.</p></blockquote></div><p>Then I&#039;m out of luck, as I&#039;m 16 and don&#039;t have the money for that. The €99 (about $137 at the time I bought it, if memory serves) for Play was roughly half the money I had available to spend at the time, and the €150 to upgrade is not something I have right now, especially considering that I&#039;m trying to save up to buy a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantele">kantele</a> (Wikipedia link; basically, a Finnish zither instrument). Guess I&#039;ll just work with what I&#039;ve got.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 06:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Kovács cimbalom and realism]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=15411#p15411</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it has something to do with it. That feature is available on Standard and Pro versions, but not on Play version.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (EvilDragon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 09:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Kovács cimbalom and realism]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=15401#p15401</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Gilles wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>dalahast wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Philippe Guillaume wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You can reduce the damping duration, and eventually the sympathetic resonances.</p></blockquote></div><p>Where&#039;s the damping duration setting?</p></blockquote></div><p>Under EFFECTS, click on ACTION.</p></blockquote></div><p>There&#039;s nothing there about damping duration. I&#039;m using the Play version (because I&#039;m cheap like that and can&#039;t afford the standard one), does that have anything to do with it?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (dalahast)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 03:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Kovács cimbalom and realism]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=15396#p15396</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dalahast wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Philippe Guillaume wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>dalahast wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One thing I do still notice is that the strings are not dampened completely right away; even with the reverb off, the notes still linger a bit longer than one would expect of a cimbalom.</p></blockquote></div><p>You can reduce the damping duration, and eventually the sympathetic resonances.</p></blockquote></div><p>Where&#039;s the damping duration setting?</p></blockquote></div><p>Under EFFECTS, click on ACTION.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Gilles)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 22:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Kovács cimbalom and realism]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=15395#p15395</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Philippe Guillaume wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>dalahast wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One thing I do still notice is that the strings are not dampened completely right away; even with the reverb off, the notes still linger a bit longer than one would expect of a cimbalom.</p></blockquote></div><p>You can reduce the damping duration, and eventually the sympathetic resonances.</p></blockquote></div><p>Where&#039;s the damping duration setting?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Kovács cimbalom and realism]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=15373#p15373</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dalahast wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One thing I do still notice is that the strings are not dampened completely right away; even with the reverb off, the notes still linger a bit longer than one would expect of a cimbalom.</p></blockquote></div><p>You can reduce the damping duration, and eventually the sympathetic resonances.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Philippe Guillaume)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 10:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Kovács cimbalom and realism]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=15372#p15372</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Then make the sustain pedal curve a bit more sloped, like this:</p><p>Sustain Velocity = [0, 6, 15, 31, 55, 77, 99, 124; 127, 94, 59, 35, 21, 11, 3, 0]</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (EvilDragon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 10:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Kovács cimbalom and realism]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=15367#p15367</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>doug wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Try reversing the pedal&#039;s input map so it slopes down to the right rather than up.</p></blockquote></div><p>That seems to have done the trick, for the most part. One thing I do still notice is that the strings are not dampened completely right away; even with the reverb off, the notes still linger a bit longer than one would expect of a cimbalom.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 06:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=15365#p15365</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Try reversing the pedal&#039;s input map so it slopes down to the right rather than up.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 03:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Kovács cimbalom and realism]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=15364#p15364</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>You might want to try assigning the sustain pedal (CC64) to Mute parameter in Action menu, and deassigning the CC64 from sustain pedal. It might work better for you.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (EvilDragon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 03:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Kovács cimbalom and realism]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=15363#p15363</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>While I love the sound of the cimbalom in Pianoteq, I&#039;m constantly frustrated by one thing in it: the pedal. On a real cimbalom, the pedal pushes the dampers down, not lifts them (as the pedal on a piano would do), so all the notes are sustained until the pedal is pressed, and to get the short staccato notes, the pedal is held down while striking strings.</p><p>The Kovács cimbalom in Pianoteq is reversed, and acts like a piano. Not only is this confusing for me, since I know how a real cimbalom works and I expect it to work that way, but if I just attempt to suck it up and play the thing like a piano, I&#039;m still frustrated because I have to press the pedal BEFORE hitting the first note I want to sustain. Pressing it immediately after, as works on a piano, doesn&#039;t work here because to Pianoteq, the damper is down and it makes the short sound (which is how it should work, except the damper shouldn&#039;t be up in that situation anyway because I pressed the pedal).</p><p>Can we get a fix for this, or at least a set of presets that reverses this so it works right?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 02:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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