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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Garageband sustain pedal issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s not the same problem, but perhaps related, I had problem with Mainstage and Yamaha P-70&#039;s as mother keyboards, running Ivory.&nbsp; Essentially, the sustain pedal plugged into the Yamaha was sending THREE levels:&nbsp; 0, 100 and 127.&nbsp; This was then misinterpreted by Mainstage and caused notes to hang during performance.&nbsp; The cure was (and is) to run the sustain pedal through our Axiom 49s, which we use for LH bass at shows.&nbsp; (You then re-assign the controller to the correct channel strip in Mainstage.)</p><p>It&#039;s also incorrect that the &#039;sustain&#039; pedal doesn&#039;t have more than an on-off function in reality, so the Garageband missing manual is indeed full of brown stuff! :-)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[guyharris]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-02-02T09:38:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Garageband sustain pedal issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Jake Johnson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Regardless of the pedal issue, the recording is very good. Mind my asking which preset you used?</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you, Jake. I used the YC3 Chamber detuned with the reverb and limiter switched off. I may have hardened the hammers at piano a touch (they&#039;re at 0.37) and I used the reverb on Garageband at 14%. That was actually a mistake; I&#039;d meant to use the pianoverb plug in, but forgot to switch it on!<br />Regarding pedalling, I do use the sostenuto pedal for the long held bass notes when the score goes into 3 staves, but use half pedaling shortly after to hold down a fifth in the bass across some conflicting harmonies; so it does work!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[benormerod]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-02-01T12:47:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Garageband sustain pedal issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of the pedal issue, the recording is very good. Mind my asking which preset you used?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jake Johnson]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-01-31T19:23:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Garageband sustain pedal issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>One of the purposes of Garageband is to push &#039;serious&#039; users into investing in Logic. This is, in part, part of that strategy. Worked for me!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[doug]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-01-31T19:10:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Garageband sustain pedal issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>benormerod wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well, I&#039;m embarrassed to report that, after rereading the quote from the missing manual, and then experimenting, I find that although garageband shows the sustain pedal as either on or off, it does record a full range of values for it. Odd.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hehe... I wondered why they should expend effort to change the incoming data to either 0 or 127... Well, they don&#039;t. But funny they do it for the display, although I understand it for notation purposes (the &quot;ped&quot; and the&quot;*&quot; sign).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jope]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-01-31T15:14:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Garageband sustain pedal issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#039;m embarrassed to report that, after rereading the quote from the missing manual, and then experimenting, I find that although garageband shows the sustain pedal as either on or off, it does record a full range of values for it. Odd. So, at the risk of embarrassing myself further I&#039;m posting my first effort on Pianoteq, Ravel&#039;s Menuet sur le Nom d&#039;Haydn, with the more offensive missed notes removed courtesy of garageband.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[benormerod]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-01-31T15:02:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>benormerod wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>&quot;After all, in the real world, there’s no such thing as half-pressing the pedal on a piano.&quot;</p></blockquote></div><p>So much for the GarageBand maker&#039;s real world.<br />Maybe you can use Controller No 4 &quot;Foot controller&quot;. Refer to the <a href="http://www.indiana.edu/~emusic/cntrlnumb.html">MIDI Standard Controller Numbers</a>.<br />Of course your pedal must be able to send using this number and Pianoteq must be able to use it (which I don&#039;t know for now).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jope]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-01-31T12:24:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Garageband sustain pedal issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Jope wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Maybe there is one solution if you can configure your pedal to send a controller number different from 64 (Hold Pedal) and use a number that is designated for continuous values and make Pianoteq take this controller number for the sustain pedal. I think in former MIDI times for the hold pedal any value other than 0 just meaned &quot;pressed&quot;, and although it is no effort to record continuous values, GarageBand seems to decide what is useful... In its own way.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, I thought that the answer might lie in that direction; I can&#039;t find any information on what controller number Garageband takes for its expression pedal, so I guess some experimentation is in order. </p><p>In the meantime, according to &quot;Garageband, the missing manual&quot; I don&#039;t have a problem: &quot;As with key velocity, sustain-pedal motion is recorded on a scale of 0 to 127. Unlike key velocity, however, there’s no such thing as a sustain-pedal setting between 0 and 127. After all, in the real world, there’s no such thing as half-pressing the pedal on a piano.&quot;</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2011-01-31T12:13:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Garageband sustain pedal issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there is one solution if you can configure your pedal to send a controller number different from 64 (Hold Pedal) and use a number that is designated for continuous values and make Pianoteq take this controller number for the sustain pedal. I think in former MIDI times for the hold pedal any value other than 0 just meaned &quot;pressed&quot;, and although it is no effort to record continuous values, GarageBand seems to decide what is useful... In its own way.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2011-01-31T12:07:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Garageband sustain pedal issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been playing with Pianoteq in garageband 08, with a great deal of pleasure; but I discovered listening to a recording I made that the sustain pedal has been recorded as either on or off, which is a shame, as I went to some lengths to find a keyboard that gave 128 levels of sustain pedal. I also can&#039;t find where the sostenuto pedal is recorded. Does anybody use garageband and have a fix, of should I look for another piece of software?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2011-01-31T10:39:12Z</updated>
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