For solo playing, I use an EQ which flattens the combined room/loudspeaker response. But for using  in a mix, the EQ is likely to depend on the combination of instruments. It seems we modern listeners like the instruments to fill out the  frequency space nicely (whatever that means).

One tip (common in jazz) is to write the piano left hand part so it does not overlap with a double bass part, to avoid beating tones which may be audible, i.e. close voicings of chords. That assumes you are not dealing with something written by someone else.

cheers
Hans

http://www.allfreeessays.net/student/Pr...Piano.html

Do we reach a point at which we just say it's all subjective, or are there actually a fairly limited set of frequencies, such as the ones you use, the 1k boost, and those listed in the article I just linked to?

Have other people found other frequencies that they like to boost or cut, or that they consider "standard" EQ settings for pianos?

I looked again in that recording book which indeed was a Dutch original, but it seems I didn't get the information from that... as a matter of fact I think I now remember it came from a web-interview with a guy who demos..ehem.. Truepiano...
And then I combine that suggestion of the 200 and 2000 Hz with some other suggestions I read and further by ear...

good to have a fellow Dutchman here
Well I - found a video-clip on the Baldwin site from which I tried to recreate the sound..
and it's well possible that I'm not even close but I like the sound anyway

As to trying to edit sounds....
Start with one of the pianomodels that comes close a bit.

Try and find a sample that has enough length in the sound from which you can try to make settings for the soundboard and overall 'design' settings in Pianoteq.

Then you start changing the brightness of the sound by changing the hammer hardness for the 3 levels accordingly in the 'voicing' settings... so if you listen to loud passages and they sound brighter than the current settings, raise the forte hammer harness a bit...
the hammer noise is also one that really adds to the realism of the sound....

And don't forget the 'reverberation' settings ofcourse...

And finally it depends on what you need it for; if you just want to play it solo then any stting will do..
If you want to use it in a mix it depends on other instruments as well... it might have to be a lot brighter that you'd normally expect.
I tried to get a Bruce Hornsby pianosound (the Way it is) and needed to really raise the hardness of the hammers to get that bright a sound...
But that way it does indeed work better in a rockmix - otherwise it's just too 'muddy' and starts interfering with bassguitar for instance....

Anyway - I hope that helps a bit - good luck!

cheers
Hans

Jake Johnson wrote:

Copying a preset to the Pianoteq folder, opening Pianoteq, and loading the preset may take just enough longer to make people hesitate.

There is also the possibility to drag and drop the link into the pianoteq interface, which will then automatically download and load the fxp file !

I was one of those people, and now I have been converted!  Excellent like computers should be - thanks Modartt - and thanks to Hans "Creart" for the patch.

I don't know what Baldwin sounds like, but with such software and people like yourself creating patches, I will know when I get my hands on a real one what to expect.

Just comparing it to the basic Grand C2 is a revelation as to how the parameters can change the sound.  Did you have a real Baldwin to check against or recordings?

I'd like to try to emulate the Vintaudio Yamaha samples I have, but not sure how to choose the best starting piano in Pianoteq.  Any suggestions or just listen which is the nearest & go from there?

cheers,
Luke

here's a link to the pedal on the CME site
http://www.cme-pro.com/products-list/product-gpp.html

Here on the forum there's also some info on it..
http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=91

I like it a lot - it surely adds to a piano-feeling or at least it expands the normal possibilities by use of the 3 pedals

-- Abi

The sustain noise is exactly good with me but that's because I use the CME GPP sustain-controller.. that's a continuous sustain controller instead of the on/off normal pedals...
The guys from Pianoteq have programmed their software so that when you use such a continuous controller, the sustain-noise is also softer when you use a gradual sustain...

@Jake
I think it was an original Dutch book on recording - I'll look it up later and see if there's more interesting information in there on piano-recording, if so I can translate it and put it up here...

cheers
Hans

The baldwin sound pretty good overall, but I'd go easy on the sustain pedal noise.  The velocity curve is a bit fantastic for my keyboard, but I understand that's keyboard specific.

Overall, it's pretty useful fxp.  Thanks!

-- Abi

Which book on mixing were you using?

As a matter of fact I looked up a book on recording and mixing and found some basic settings for getting a piano 'in the mix' - then I tried a bit further to get the sound I liked....

In recording books they advice to raise ranges round 200Hz and 2KHz...

cheers
Hans

Mind if I ask how you made your choices for eq'ing? Did you go entirely by ear, or did you do an analysis of notes from the clip you mentioned and then raise and lower the amplitude of the various frequencies?