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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pina Colada add-on...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you can&#039;t focus on improving the piano model, or an upright: then I&#039;d suggest to take a look at this instrument:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LfJLvuZqmQ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LfJLvuZqmQ</a><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0xxnFqdBCE">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0xxnFqdBCE</a><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK4prndgdes&amp;feature=channel">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK4prndg...re=channel</a></p><p>Cheers!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[davidka91]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-18T21:34:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pina Colada add-on...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Cellomangler wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yeah Wolf... I really need to put my recorder where my mouth is... so to speak.&nbsp; I&#039;ll seriously take time here in the next few days to lay down some simple Pianoteq riffs with and without an FX chain that I like.&nbsp; I&#039;ll document what the effects I used are -maybe include a photo.&nbsp; They will be outboard effects but similar to what&#039;s available in software plugs.</p></blockquote></div><p>Great! I&#039;m really curious... <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i><br />I&#039;ll stay tuned!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wolfgang]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-17T12:38:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pina Colada add-on...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#039;t be surprise if people ask Modartt a ad-on for this kind of percursion:</p><p><a href="http://www.videolife.tk/video/g2LJ1i7222c/The-Typewriter-Leroy-Anderson-Martin-Breinschmid-with-Strauß-Festival-Orchestra-Vienna.html">http://www.videolife.tk/video/g2LJ1i722...ienna.html</a></p><br /><p>What a inventive Marimba, with midi input:</p><p><a href="http://you-hobby-videoblog.ru/view.php?video=UQ35iQFeock&amp;feature=youtube_gdata_player&amp;title=Larry+Cotton%27s+MIDI+Marimba">http://you-hobby-videoblog.ru/view.php?...DI+Marimba</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-16T22:26:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wolfgang wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Anyway, your comments are very interesting, Cellomangler. Could you maybe give us some details what exactly you try to emulate with multi-band distortion, delay etc. and how?<br />I&#039;d really be interested in that!&nbsp; &nbsp; Wolfgang</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah Wolf... I really need to put my recorder where my mouth is... so to speak.&nbsp; I&#039;ll seriously take time here in the next few days to lay down some simple Pianoteq riffs with and without an FX chain that I like.&nbsp; I&#039;ll document what the effects I used are -maybe include a photo.&nbsp; They will be outboard effects but similar to what&#039;s available in software plugs.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Cellomangler]]></name>
				<uri>https://forum.modartt.com/profile.php?id=495</uri>
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			<updated>2010-09-16T21:27:30Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Once again, speaker/cabinet/reverb simulation is easily done with convolution processing! It&#039;s a one-size-fits-all! <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-16T17:47:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pina Colada add-on...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Your comment makes me remamber something about vintage eletric pianos.<br />Do you realise that in the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s the compact onboard speakers, used in these instruments, was quite a crap ?<br />Pianoteq emulate the sound signal produced by such instruments very well, but do not emulate the fails of the speakers of such vintage instruments.</p><p>To get the true sound of such things we need to get a crap vintage speaker, or a &quot;crap speaker emulator&quot;.</p><p>Well, I think I could won the &quot;crazy requests competition&quot; here, by requesting a &quot;crap speaker emulator&quot;.</p><p>háaa háaa...&nbsp; &nbsp; <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>feline1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;m one of the people who thinks the danger with all these FX requests is that they are all readily available from 3rd parties, whereas nobody else yet has an upright piano or a Hohner pianet N VSTi <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-16T17:05:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pina Colada add-on...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think Pianoteq should call or write the people at Audio Damage and try to make a deal to use their FX in Pianoteq which could maybe speed up both companys.</p><p>If you want REALLY good FX, Audio Damage makes them.<br />I am really serious about this.<br />Why use time inventing something others allready have done, and done very good !</p><p>Reverb <a href="http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=AD023">http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/prod...?pid=AD023</a><br />Chorus <a href="http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=AD016">http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/prod...?pid=AD016</a><br />Phaser <a href="http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=AD008">http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/prod...?pid=AD008</a><br />Delay <a href="http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=AD006">http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/prod...?pid=AD006</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[olepro]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-16T13:10:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pina Colada add-on...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting suggestions here, but I also don&#039;t really see the point of including all these FX in Pianoteq.</p><p>As Michael H and feeble already stated, it&#039;s better if Modartt spend their valuable time improving and developing the piano models, which is what they&#039;re really good at.</p><p>Anyway, your comments are very interesting, Cellomangler. Could you maybe give us some details what exactly you try to emulate with multi-band distortion, delay etc. and how?<br />I&#039;d really be interested in that!</p><p>Wolfgang</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wolfgang]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-16T10:35:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pina Colada add-on...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m one of the people who thinks the danger with all these FX requests is that they are all readily available from 3rd parties, whereas nobody else yet has an upright piano or a Hohner pianet N VSTi <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[feline1]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-16T10:19:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pina Colada add-on...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I still suggest that if they add a chorus, they should make it a chorus/flanger/phaser, switchable. Flanger is just a chorus with shorter delay time and feedback. Phasing is a different thing altogether, but it can be put in &quot;the swirling effect&quot; family. <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>I agree that tape delay and warm vintage distortion would be awesome to make stuff lo-fi and 1920s. <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p><p>I also think that cabinet &quot;modeling&quot; should be done with convolution processing instead of actually modeling it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-16T09:28:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pina Colada add-on...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>a good real chorus is on top of my wish list and a must for an even better electric piano....<br />delay and distortion or tube stuff comes then</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[creart]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-16T06:25:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Marimba it&#039;s made of wood ...</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.richsamuels.com/nbcmm/deagan/images/king_george_marimba.jpg" alt="PunBB bbcode test" title="PunBB bbcode test"/></span> </p><br /><p>Now you can&#039;t complain Pianoteq have no woodness...</p><br /><p><i class="far fa-grin-tongue-squint smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-16T04:44:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pina Colada add-on...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#039;t want a huge number of effects, but:</p><p>1. Tape saturation, for emulating non-digital recordings.<br />2. Another control for the current reverb: High freq damping<br />3. A chorus, as others have requested, with controls for timing and detuning.<br />4. And a big one: Mic modeling. Maybe just a drop-down list of mic brands and versions would do.</p><p>And 1+ for a bypass on the EQ. Great idea.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jake Johnson]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-16T04:43:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pina Colada add-on...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Michael H wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Personally, I&#039;d hate to see Modartt spending time developing extras that would only be used occasionally, by a few people. </p><p>IMO the time is better spent on piano development. I can&#039;t wait to see what they come up with next in that area <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>Not sure if by extras you mean the Add-Ons or post effects.&nbsp; Post processing can add a lot to the piano sound with much less development effort.&nbsp; I&#039;m talking about making the piano sound more real using effects which are actually a part of the acoustic sound as it is affected by the cabinet, room, etc.&nbsp; Modeling strings is one thing, but I think it&#039;s crazy to try to &quot;model&quot; a piano cabinet when you can recreate the effect that the cabinet has on the strings with the right combo of subtle post effects.&nbsp; As far as all the Add-Ons, they&#039;ve never been a big draw for me but then I get those sounds from other hardware.&nbsp; You know, we all want what we want.&nbsp; Modartt wants to sell more software.&nbsp; The Add-Ons get some additional revenue from existing users, but I&#039;m not sure they contribute to luring new prospects.&nbsp; I would bet that post-processing -with demos of what that contributes- would be a wise investment.&nbsp; Just my 7 cents worth.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Cellomangler]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-16T00:29:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pina Colada add-on...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Michael H wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Personally, I&#039;d hate to see Modartt spending time developing extras that would only be used occasionally, by a few people. </p><p>IMO the time is better spent on piano development. I can&#039;t wait to see what they come up with next in that area <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>Agreed,&nbsp; hopefully Modartt has something really, really good for the next major release .&nbsp; A user at Piano World has some samples posted up from Ivory II and it sounds very nice.&nbsp; Ivory can&#039;t match PT&#039;s flexibility but I just want a deep, woody acoustic sounding grand.&nbsp; The K1 was definitely a step in the right direction, but it isn&#039;t there yet, not for me anyway.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[feeble]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-15T23:47:23Z</updated>
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