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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The kind of piano sound I want is rich in overtones]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve tried to play around with my Pianoteq Play in Mainstage. I don&#039;t know what you think of this sound (I recorded it in Logic).</p><p><a href="http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.php?file=Andreas%20impro.mp3">http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...0impro.mp3</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[berghs.kedjan]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-03T16:53:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The kind of piano sound I want is rich in overtones]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hm, dunno. I forgot all that since I use K1 <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t like any other model other than K1 anymore too but I had to tweak it considerably.</p><p>The only real thing missing I find is the attack, ringy - bell kind of sound which is more present in K1, with the C3 you can hear the harpy sound of the string but K1 sounds like a real piano, like here:</p><p><a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2963766/the_transformation-part2-unfinished.mp3">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2963766/the_tra...nished.mp3</a><br />or<br />here<br /><a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2963766/the_loneliness-the_sadness.m4a">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2963766/the_lon...adness.m4a</a></p><p>Here is my tweaked C3 it&#039;s still sounds electronic the strucked string, the resonance and sustain are beautiful though, keep it up PTQ <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p><a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2963766/a-birds-journey.m4a">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2963766/a-birds-journey.m4a</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nutela]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-09-03T13:27:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>C3 Light preset was present in version 3.0, but we didn&#039;t keep it as a preset because the main difference was in the velocity curve and variations on the velocity curve make real sense only when made in connection with the keyboard which is used. It&#039;s description was: &quot;This preset is intended to give the feeling of a light keyboard action. The main difference with the Player preset is in the velocity curve.&quot;</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Philippe Guillaume]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-08-19T15:35:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The kind of piano sound I want is rich in overtones]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hm, dunno. I forgot all that since I use K1 <i class="far fa-laugh smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-08-19T12:38:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The kind of piano sound I want is rich in overtones]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>C3 Light.</p></blockquote></div><p>Which doesn&#039;t exist - right? So it&#039;s a custom patch?</p><p>Greg.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[skip]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-08-19T12:19:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: The kind of piano sound I want is rich in overtones]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, the Strings accompaniment help to mask the piano sound in this video.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-08-18T01:39:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes - Auto Gain Correction, which is dynamic range compression, of course. It&#039;s just a thought anyway.</p><p>Greg.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-08-18T01:05:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Auto Gain Correction, I presume.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-08-18T00:59:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What&#039;s AGC? Another mic?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jake Johnson]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-08-18T00:46:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that that the AGC in the video camera is helping Pianoteq in that recording.</p><p>Greg.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-08-17T21:26:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Jake Johnson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Did we ever figure out what preset Dawson was using in that demo?</p></blockquote></div><p>C3 Light.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-08-17T16:15:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Did we ever figure out what preset Dawson was using in that demo?</p><p>About the Fantom video: What I think I hear in that preset is hard-strike samples and quite a bit of reverb as the source of the decay. That&#039;s the old-school method of disguising brief samples, and sometimes it does sound good--the reverb emulates the sound of the sympathetic and cabinet resonance, along with the decay.</p><p>So...in PianoTeq, you might try increasing the hardness of the hammer strikes and in the Reverb pane, reducing the size of the room slightly while slightly increasing the length of the reverb tail and increasing the Wetness slightly. Getting the right mixture of these three sliders may take some time and experimentation.</p><p>Then use the Spectrum note edit pane to amplify some partials. The higher 5ths (multiples of the 3rd partial in other words), I think, will give you the brighter sound. You might use Audacity to analyze the partial structure in the sampled note, find the PianoTeq preset that comes closest to matching it, and then see how close you could come to replicating the note using the Spectrum profile NE pane.</p><p>If you could record a single note from the Fantom and post it, we could all have a go at emulating it. Maybe that Ab? That&#039;s a note I&#039;d like to try to emulate.</p><p>Now, in the video, it&#039;s hard to hear the piano because of the string patch.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jake Johnson]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-08-17T14:34:32Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Found it:<br /><a href="http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?pid=10561#p10561">http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic...561#p10561</a></p><p>Greg.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-08-17T13:40:16Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I like that clip a lot. Notice how the soft notes still sound warm and mellow, despite the fact that the forte playing sounds very bright and rich? Very expressive. That sound is definitely something I like.</p><p>I think the best demo I&#039;ve heard of Pianoteq yet is starting to approach that kind of richness, but still doesn&#039;t reach it. (it&#039;s that demo of the guy playing in a studio through loud speakers on a controller that looks like a plane cockpit - anyone have a pointer to it?)</p><p>Greg.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-08-17T13:23:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Blergh, Fantom doesn&#039;t have a single good piano sound, IMHO. They&#039;re all too beefed up and compressed out and sucked out of life.</p><br /><p>And you should be careful with Spectrum Profile - you don&#039;t really need to bump those values high - it is a very sensitive control where sometimes .2 dB boost or cut mean a lot.</p><p>You should update to latest version (3.6.3) which has the new model built in (K1), and try that one out.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-08-17T08:54:52Z</updated>
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