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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Progressive Sustain Pedal]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Niclas once told me about how fabulous was Yamaha Grand Touch. </p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp;Roland models with Scapmenmt seens ok, according reviews, but have prastic keys. If they create one with wooden keys...&nbsp; &nbsp;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Scapament in digital pianos are still quite new feature, so I thinks that&#039;s why they only equiped expansive digital pianos with it. It&#039;s to estimulate people buy the expensive ones.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;I think they will not add the scapment on controllers or compact models soon.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp;In a similar way they keep the price of midi sensors, to intall in real piano, very high, more expansive than most compact digital pianos.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-06-15T01:38:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Progressive Sustain Pedal]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Beto-Music wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thank you for reply.&nbsp; Maybe we should sugest manufatures to create a midi susteinpedal with feedback.&nbsp; But key Scapment it&#039;s already very rare today, only in expensive models.</p></blockquote></div><p>Tell me about it! And Yamaha seemed to have stopped making their extremely expensive GranTouch range that used a genuine GrandPiano action monitored digitally to give the proper feel.&nbsp; Mind you, it was:</p><p>(i) extremely expensive<br />(ii) totally non-portable<br />(iii) combined with only 32-polyphonic 3-stage sampled piano sound - which only allowed 16 stereo keys to sound at once</p><p>Imagine if we could have coupled that keyboard with Pianoteq.&nbsp; I want it! (just not at that price)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alex]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-06-03T11:55:42Z</updated>
			<id>https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?pid=115#p115</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Progressive Sustain Pedal]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for reply.&nbsp; Maybe we should sugest manufatures to create a midi susteinpedal with feedback.&nbsp; But key Scapment it&#039;s already very rare today, only in expensive models.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-06-02T19:20:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Progressive Sustain Pedal]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Beto-Music wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>...<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Maybe it is just as a real piano, that have a narrow movment range of sensibility too.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;But to give a little help for who is not a expert pianist, maybe woth it. :-)</p><p>...</p></blockquote></div><p>Although you are right that most real pianos do indeed have a very small range where the half-pedalling is effective, they also have feedback to the pedal.&nbsp; That is you can (with practice) feel the dampers lifting, and even (quite quickly) judge a useful degree of &quot;lightening&quot; the dampers.</p><p>So, given I know of no electronic sustain pedals that give feedback, your request is very reasonable.&nbsp; </p><p>What would be ideal is a sort of velocity curve on the sustain pedal, where we could define full-on, and full-off as something other than 127 and 0 (much like in real life), and also define the effect and extent of the &quot;half-pedal&quot; zone, in which a &quot;realistic&quot; effect is not useful without feedback.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alex]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-06-02T12:37:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Progressive Sustain Pedal]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I would like to share you all you my idea for a progressive sustein for Pianoteq with a controller to adjust imput and output ranfe. this way we could increase the range of sensibility, making the use of halph sustein more esay to achive.&nbsp; By now the halph sustein response on pianoteq&nbsp; it&#039;s a bit difficult to get since it is sensible just to a narrow movement of the midi pedal controller. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Maybe it is just as a real piano, that have a narrow movment range of sensibility too.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;But to give a little help for who is not a expert pianist, maybe woth it. :-)</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I sugest roland pedal for who is searching for a sutein pedal with progressive ability.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Beto-Music]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-05-29T18:39:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Progressive Sustain Pedal]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Doug, I&#039;ll look into that.<br />Half-damper compatible....<br />I wonder if Pianoteq would understand whatever half-damper message this pedal sends?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[poodlebuild]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-05-29T15:52:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Progressive Sustain Pedal]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the Roland DP10.<br /><a href="http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLDP10">http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLDP10</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[doug]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-05-28T01:03:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Progressive Sustain Pedal]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I can&#039;t seem to find a single progressive sustain pedal.<br />Who makes one?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[poodlebuild]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-05-26T18:48:07Z</updated>
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