Chopin87 wrote:

You tried out the "short" models, that's why it appears less prominent compared to your experience. If you depress the pedal on a Steinway D for example the sound will be much more prominent and high pitched than say a model S.

I will take this in mind the next time I go to one of my local Steinway Dealers nearby to try a model D or similar if they have one.

After some back and fourth with with the Kawai and Model B, with pedal noise set to +25db, you are correct, the "short" models do have a less prominent high pitched sound compared to the longer SK-EX.

Thanks for clarifying that up! (if anyone could explain the physics that would be nice, maybe its due to the treble strings having a longer speaking length?)

I don't know exactly the the physics but my guess is that all of that is related to the size of the piano itself and the combination of factors it entails. You have bigger soundboard, longer strings, higher tension, bigger crossover section, etc. All of those factors increase the sustain of the sound and the resonance. The grand piano evolved towards this direction with different patents so it could offer more sonic power as opposed to the Harpsichord when paired with an orchestra as a solo instrument in concert halls.

You tried out the "short" models, that's why it appears less prominent compared to your experience. If you depress the pedal on a Steinway D for example the sound will be much more prominent and high pitched than say a model S.

I will take this in mind the next time I go to one of my local Steinway Dealers nearby to try a model D or similar if they have one.

After some back and fourth with with the Kawai and Model B, with pedal noise set to +25db, you are correct, the "short" models do have a less prominent high pitched sound compared to the longer SK-EX.

Thanks for clarifying that up! (if anyone could explain the physics that would be nice, maybe its due to the treble strings having a longer speaking length?)

CelestialNikko wrote:

This might just be me but I feel like the pedal noise sounds bright and almost "harsh" in the high end and somewhat mid end boosted compared to what say an actual grand would sound like in person.

(edit: it could be that I have only tried out a Yamaha C5X and a Steinway Model S in person)

Ive eliminated all possibilities of it being my hardware (ATH-R30X with correction) or other plugins

This seems to be most prevalent on the Kawai SK-EX and only a bit on the Steinway Model B, and out of all 3 pianos I own the Bosendorfer seems have the most realism out of the bunch but it still varies by preset.

This might be up to personal preference (likely) honestly but if you have any thoughts or ideas about this feel free to reply.

By "the pedal noise," do you mean the mechanical sound of the pedal being depressed, or the sound of the sustained notes?

By the pedal noise i mean the mechanical sound of it when all the dampers leave the strings. (by contrast the sustained notes themselves sound lovely.)

This might just be me but I feel like the pedal noise sounds bright and almost "harsh" in the high end and somewhat mid end boosted compared to what say an actual grand would sound like in person.

(edit: it could be that I have only tried out a Yamaha C5X and a Steinway Model S in person)

Ive eliminated all possibilities of it being my hardware (ATH-R30X with correction) or other plugins

This seems to be most prevalent on the Kawai SK-EX and only a bit on the Steinway Model B, and out of all 3 pianos I own the Bosendorfer seems have the most realism out of the bunch but it still varies by preset.

This might be up to personal preference (likely) honestly but if you have any thoughts or ideas about this feel free to reply.

By "the pedal noise," do you mean the mechanical sound of the pedal being depressed, or the sound of the sustained notes?

(edit: it could be that I have only tried out a Yamaha C5X and a Steinway Model S in person)

Ive eliminated all possibilities of it being my hardware (ATH-R30X with correction) or other plugins

This seems to be most prevalent on the Kawai SK-EX and only a bit on the Steinway Model B, and out of all 3 pianos I own the Bosendorfer seems have the most realism out of the bunch but it still varies by preset.

This might be up to personal preference (likely) honestly but if you have any thoughts or ideas about this feel free to reply.