nook wrote:

andrei wrote:

I will be of course happy to help anybody who tries to build something similar. Here is a photo with the "brain" of the controller, an Arduino Pro Micro PCB (with the two PIN PCB connectors already soldered):

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/fr-f...00F657BF2A

It costs about 8€ on Amazon.

Andrei

Dear Andrei
I've been following Organteq for a while. Thank you for sharing your MIDI pipe organ works, which inspired me to consider creating a low-cost MIDI pipe organ. Of course, I'll start by learning how to make a Pedalboard.
Regarding the Arduino development board you mentioned earlier, I noticed it only has 14 pins. Could you please share the model of the multiplexer you used to address this issue? If possible, could you also send me an Arduino program code to my email, h214694838@gmail.com.

Dear Nook,
Thank you for your interest in my work! First of all: in my opinion, for the pedalboard there is no cheap solution. For my setup I ordered a MIDI pedalboard with 30 pedals on the website

https://www.pedamidikit.org

This is the website of an Italian workshop. I ordered the PMK AGO 30 pedalboard. I assembled and varnished the parts in the church in Marseille, and, I have to say, this was not quite easy! The problem was to adjust the magnetic bolts in the right position. I payed about 1200€ for the unassembled/unvarnished version, but I see that now it became a bit more expensive.

My MIDI controller is not absolutely necessary. As you see in my videos (see the links below), we had two organists who played difficult pieces on my organ before I installed the MIDI controller.  The new MIDI controller gives quick access to stop combinations.  As I explain in my posts, it reproduces the bottom left controls of the Jamb View interface of Organteq. The 14 buttons you mention correspond to the 10 stop combinations of each bank, plus the four commands: next combination, previous combination, next bank, previous bank.

But all these commands are already available on the touch screen of any Organteq setup (in the Jamb View interface)!
The only difference is that the buttons of the MIDI controller are much closer to the organist's fingers when he plays! In the videos with Stephane Rigat and Luc Ragomaharisoa playing on my organ, you'll see that the organist needs several seconds to select the stop combination he needs for each piece. With my new blue MIDI controller, he can pre-record the stop combinations he needs in a personalised preset (which will be saved in the folder "My Presets" before starting the concert), and then, during playing, select the stop combination in a fraction of a second!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P...r1y3XehiSX

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P...kb0GhpfxrZ

The sound seams fantastic!

Even listening over iPhone

nook wrote:

andrei wrote:

I will be of course happy to help anybody who tries to build something similar. Here is a photo with the "brain" of the controller, an Arduino Pro Micro PCB (with the two PIN PCB connectors already soldered):

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/fr-f...00F657BF2A

It costs about 8€ on Amazon.

Andrei

Dear Andrei
I've been following Organteq for a while. Thank you for sharing your MIDI pipe organ works, which inspired me to consider creating a low-cost MIDI pipe organ. Of course, I'll start by learning how to make a Pedalboard.
Regarding the Arduino development board you mentioned earlier, I noticed it only has 14 pins. Could you please share the model of the multiplexer you used to address this issue? If possible, could you also send me an Arduino program code to my email, h214694838@gmail.com.

Dear Nook,
Thank you for your interest in my work! First of all: in my opinion, for the pedalboard there is no cheap solution. For my setup I ordered a MIDI pedalboard with 30 pedals on the website

https://www.pedamidikit.org

This is the website of an Italian workshop. I ordered the PMK AGO 30 pedalboard. I assembled and varnished the parts in the church in Marseille, and, I have to say, this was not quite easy! The problem was to adjust the magnetic bolts in the right position. I payed about 1200€ for the unassembled/unvarnished version, but I see that now it became a bit more expensive.

My MIDI controller is not absolutely necessary. As you see in my videos (see the links below), we had two organists who played difficult pieces on my organ before I installed the MIDI controller.  The new MIDI controller gives quick access to stop combinations.  As I explain in my posts, it reproduces the bottom left controls of the Jamb View interface of Organteq. The 14 buttons you mention correspond to the 10 stop combinations of each bank, plus the four commands: next combination, previous combination, next bank, previous bank.

But all these commands are already available on the touch screen of any Organteq setup (in the Jamb View interface)!
The only difference is that the buttons of the MIDI controller are much closer to the organist's fingers when he plays! In the videos with Stephane Rigat and Luc Ragomaharisoa playing on my organ, you'll see that the organist needs several seconds to select the stop combination he needs for each piece. With my new blue MIDI controller, he can pre-record the stop combinations he needs in a personalised preset (which will be saved in the folder "My Presets" before starting the concert), and then, during playing, select the stop combination in a fraction of a second!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P...r1y3XehiSX

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P...kb0GhpfxrZ

The sound seams fantastic!

Even listening over iPhone

nook wrote:

andrei wrote:

I will be of course happy to help anybody who tries to build something similar. Here is a photo with the "brain" of the controller, an Arduino Pro Micro PCB (with the two PIN PCB connectors already soldered):

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/fr-f...00F657BF2A

It costs about 8€ on Amazon.

Andrei

Dear Andrei
I've been following Organteq for a while. Thank you for sharing your MIDI pipe organ works, which inspired me to consider creating a low-cost MIDI pipe organ. Of course, I'll start by learning how to make a Pedalboard.
Regarding the Arduino development board you mentioned earlier, I noticed it only has 14 pins. Could you please share the model of the multiplexer you used to address this issue? If possible, could you also send me an Arduino program code to my email, h214694838@gmail.com.

Dear Nook,
Thank you for your interest in my work! First of all: in my opinion, for the pedalboard there is no cheap solution. For my setup I ordered a MIDI pedalboard with 30 pedals on the website

https://www.pedamidikit.org

This is the website of an Italian workshop. I ordered the PMK AGO 30 pedalboard. I assembled and varnished the parts in the church in Marseille, and, I have to say, this was not quite easy! The problem was to adjust the magnetic bolts in the right position. I payed about 1200€ for the unassembled/unvarnished version, but I see that now it became a bit more expensive.

My MIDI controller is not absolutely necessary. As you see in my videos (see the links below), we had two organists who played difficult pieces on my organ before I installed the MIDI controller.  The new MIDI controller gives quick access to stop combinations.  As I explain in my posts, it reproduces the bottom left controls of the Jamb View interface of Organteq. The 14 buttons you mention correspond to the 10 stop combinations of each bank, plus the four commands: next combination, previous combination, next bank, previous bank.

But all these commands are already available on the touch screen of any Organteq setup (in the Jamb View interface)!
The only difference is that the buttons of the MIDI controller are much closer to the organist's fingers when he plays! In the videos with Stephane Rigat and Luc Ragomaharisoa playing on my organ, you'll see that the organist needs several seconds to select the stop combination he needs for each piece. With my new blue MIDI controller, he can pre-record the stop combinations he needs in a personalised preset (which will be saved in the folder "My Presets" before starting the concert), and then, during playing, select the stop combination in a fraction of a second!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P...r1y3XehiSX

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P...kb0GhpfxrZ

The sound seams fantastic!

Even listening over iPhone

andrei wrote:

andrei wrote:

I have constructed a USB/MIDI controller for Organteq ...

I will be of course happy to help anybody who tries to build something similar. Here is a photo with the "brain" of the controller, an Arduino Pro Micro PCB (with the two PIN PCB connectors already soldered):

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/fr-f...00F657BF2A

It costs about 8€ on Amazon.

Andrei

Dear Andrei
I've been following Organteq for a while. Thank you for sharing your MIDI pipe organ works, which inspired me to consider creating a low-cost MIDI pipe organ. Of course, I'll start by learning how to make a Pedalboard.
Regarding the Arduino development board you mentioned earlier, I noticed it only has 14 pins. Could you please share the model of the multiplexer you used to address this issue? If possible, could you also send me an Arduino program code to my email, h214694838@gmail.com.

Dear Nook,
Thank you for your interest in my work! First of all: in my opinion, for the pedalboard there is no cheap solution. For my setup I ordered a MIDI pedalboard with 30 pedals on the website

https://www.pedamidikit.org

This is the website of an Italian workshop. I ordered the PMK AGO 30 pedalboard. I assembled and varnished the parts in the church in Marseille, and, I have to say, this was not quite easy! The problem was to adjust the magnetic bolts in the right position. I payed about 1200€ for the unassembled/unvarnished version, but I see that now it became a bit more expensive.

My MIDI controller is not absolutely necessary. As you see in my videos (see the links below), we had two organists who played difficult pieces on my organ before I installed the MIDI controller.  The new MIDI controller gives quick access to stop combinations.  As I explain in my posts, it reproduces the bottom left controls of the Jamb View interface of Organteq. The 14 buttons you mention correspond to the 10 stop combinations of each bank, plus the four commands: next combination, previous combination, next bank, previous bank.

But all these commands are already available on the touch screen of any Organteq setup (in the Jamb View interface)!
The only difference is that the buttons of the MIDI controller are much closer to the organist's fingers when he plays! In the videos with Stephane Rigat and Luc Ragomaharisoa playing on my organ, you'll see that the organist needs several seconds to select the stop combination he needs for each piece. With my new blue MIDI controller, he can pre-record the stop combinations he needs in a personalised preset (which will be saved in the folder "My Presets" before starting the concert), and then, during playing, select the stop combination in a fraction of a second!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P...r1y3XehiSX

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P...kb0GhpfxrZ

andrei wrote:

I have constructed a USB/MIDI controller for Organteq ...

I will be of course happy to help anybody who tries to build something similar. Here is a photo with the "brain" of the controller, an Arduino Pro Micro PCB (with the two PIN PCB connectors already soldered):

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/fr-f...00F657BF2A

It costs about 8€ on Amazon.

Andrei

Dear Andrei
I've been following Organteq for a while. Thank you for sharing your MIDI pipe organ works, which inspired me to consider creating a low-cost MIDI pipe organ. Of course, I'll start by learning how to make a Pedalboard.
Regarding the Arduino development board you mentioned earlier, I noticed it only has 14 pins. Could you please share the model of the multiplexer you used to address this issue? If possible, could you also send me an Arduino program code to my email, h214694838@gmail.com.

Thank you so much for your generous support. I understand the purpose and story behind your work. It’s wonderful that the community could get a new organ with your help.

The company behind my controller is also super supportive. After some research we have hopefully found the problem. They have built their controllers in a way that makes it possible to replace defective parts easily. The new part arrives Tuesday and I’m excited to see if it’ll come to life again or just more frustration. I’ll keep you updated.

Tim

Andrei

Yes…..thats the video I saw. I love it. Really great.

My sophisticated super hi tech controller had a break down today….overpowered…..hahaha…..the screen just was black after I returned from the bathroom…….hmmm…..just dead. I guess it needs to be returned to sender :-))))

Maybe I should get a working horse…..Andrei…..I’d like to purchase one of your controllers !!! :-)))

Since your machine is so price attractive I’ll take 2… in case one breaks down i have a replacement

Dear Tim, thank you very much for your kind post, but, in fact, I do not manufacture midi controllers for selling. In fact I am mathematician. I built an Organteq based digital organ (with all accessories, including furniture, pedalboard, pedals, sound system and midi controller) in order to help the church, not for making money.  But, if you wish, I can help you for free in the following ways:

(1) I can send you for free a brand new M-VAVE SMC-PAD Pocket Pad with 16 pads.
(2) I can help you for free to build a MIDI controller which corresponds perfectly to your needs.
If you are happy with the features of the MIDI controller I built (see the photos and the video I shared), I can help more: I can send you for free an Arduino Pro Micro PCB (the brain of the controller) with the necessary firmware already installed. 
(3)  If you want exactly the same device (the same size and positioning of the buttons/LEDs) I can also send you for free the stl file which will allow you to "print" the front panel of your controller with a 3D printer.

Note that my ambition to have LEDs (which confirm the actions of the buttons) complicated substantially the project. If you  think that the LEDs are not important for you, the project becomes much (!) easier. But then the firmware of the  Arduino Pro Micro PCB should be modified accordingly.

Best regards,
Andrei

Yes…..thats the video I saw. I love it. Really great.

My sophisticated super hi tech controller had a break down today….overpowered…..hahaha…..the screen just was black after I returned from the bathroom…….hmmm…..just dead. I guess it needs to be returned to sender :-))))

Maybe I should get a working horse…..Andrei…..I’d like to purchase one of your controllers !!! :-)))

Since your machine is so price attractive I’ll take 2… in case one breaks down i have a replacement

Bonjour Andrei

No problem - apologize accepted. No need to take something back.
I like people who directly speak out what they think rather those who agree to anything.

In your video I noticed few details….your organ resides inside a church, correct ? The Screen of your monitors mirrors some church windows ? Which church is it ? I think I saw another post from you somewhere……very interesting and I imagine the organ sounds fantastic. How many speakers ? 4 ? I would love to hear organteq in a bigger environment with multiple (8) speakers.
If mine would be in a church it should look as well like a pipe organ….of course. :-)

I am in a studio which needs to be functional first…..looking good is optional :-)

Greetings to Marseille.

Tim

Dear Tim,

Thank you very much for your kind post. My ignorant comments about advertising have already been deleted.
Answers to your questions (thank you for your interest):

I built an Organteq based digital organ for the Anglican Church All Saints' in Marseille.

I have recorded and posted on YouTube two playlists with music played on this organ. You can watch the videos here:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P...r1y3XehiSX

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P...kb0GhpfxrZ

In the first (more recent) playlist, the organist used the Arnstadt preset (Bach's organ).
In the second playlist the organist used  the Arnstadt preset for playing Bach, a French organ preset for playing Clérambault, and a German Baroque preset for playing Haendel. 

Note that I built the MIDI controller after these recording, at the suggestion of the organist Stéphane Rigat. He played again the same pieces using the new MIDI controller and he was very happy.

The sound in the recording is good, but, in my opinion,  it was even better (ampler, more immersive)  in the church.

Concerning the speakers:

The sound system of the church is a stereo (2-channel) system consisting of

(1) The front subsystem: A pair of active Edifier S3000 Pro speakers,

(2) The rear subsystem:
- A Behringer 1004 bundle consisting of 4 satellites (2 satellites per channel) and an active subwoofer which powers the whole system
        +
- An active Avcom 10'' subwoofer.
All 6 rear speakers (4 satellites and 2 subwoofers) are mounted on the roof of the small entrance hall, at about 2,5 m height.

The distance between the front and the rear system is about 12m.
The right (left) front Edifier speaker is synchronised with the two Behringer right  (respectively left) rear satellites.
The signal is split between the front and the rear subsystems using a simple Y jack cable.  The rear system is connected to one of the branches of this cable using 2 Muxlab baluns (which convert unbalanced to balanced signal  and vice-versa) and a 20m long ethernet cable (which goes to the back along a wall in a very thin 2,5 m heigh cable duct). Therefore there is no lost (in quality or strength) of the signal on the way to the back subsystem.

Speaker specifications:
Edifier system:
RMS power : high 8W+8W, middle and bass 120W+120W, total RMS: 256W.
Frequency response: 38Hz - 40 kHz.

Behringer :
RMS  power: 200W.
Maximal peak power : 600W.
Subwoofer frequency response : 30Hz-145Hz.
Satellites  frequency response: 110 Hz - 20 kHz.

Avcom subwoofer:
RMS  power: 300W
Frequency response: 20 Hz - 200 Hz
(surprising for a subwoofer  which costs 120€).

The price of the whole system (including all accessories) was under 2000€.
If you visit Marseille in near future, we will be very happy to have you in the church.  With this opportunity you will see and listen to our new handmade  organ. You can find the church using its website:  https://www.anglican-marseille.org

Es Grüessli us Marseille,
Andrei

No problem - apologize accepted. No need to take something back.
I like people who directly speak out what they think rather those who agree to anything.

In your video I noticed few details….your organ resides inside a church, correct ? The Screen of your monitors mirrors some church windows ? Which church is it ? I think I saw another post from you somewhere……very interesting and I imagine the organ sounds fantastic. How many speakers ? 4 ? I would love to hear organteq in a bigger environment with multiple (8) speakers.
If mine would be in a church it should look as well like a pipe organ….of course. :-)

I am in a studio which needs to be functional first…..looking good is optional :-)

Greetings to Marseille.

Tim

andrei wrote:

TimB3 wrote:

Hello friends

I have come around an interesting possibility to gain full control over all parameters available in organteq. My solution is the MP1 controller, which is a multi touchscreen together with 32 encoders that can  be customized as per your wishes.

https://mpmidi.com/

I attach some photos in the link and will post as well a video in the next days.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B1mJOFSVFGYXmFt

For any questions kindly let me know.

This looks like an advertisement for the very sophisticated and expensive 780€ MP controller.
In fact "all parameters available in Organteq"  can already be  easily and fully  controlled on a 16'' (or slightly larger) touch screen, which is already available in most Organteq configurations. 
An additional midi controller is useful to an organist who wants to quickly change the stop configuration when playing. But such a midi controller should be very simple. 
One only needs several buttons or pads for quickly  changing/selecting the stop configuration.
This additional midi controller should be positioned as close as possible to the lowest manual. 
One can choose to buy an inexpensive commercial midi controller, for instance the M-VAVE SMC-PAD Pocket Pad https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005008344350321.html, or to manufacture oneself  such a controller, as I did myself (using components which cost less than 40€).   
As explained in my post,  the second choice offers many advantages, because one will have a device which is perfectly adapted to the Organteq interface and to the shape/dimensions of the console.

Andrei

Your work is absolutely great and you’ve built a unique and specialized controller for organteq - for a real bargain.

My post was not intended to sound commercial and I am not attached to the manufacturer in any way.

The software behind allows as well to make use of any vst/au plugins, fx, mixing, eq

Any parameter of any DAW is just at your hands. Zero programming.

I do play various instruments and switch between them. I go from organteq to pianoteq and so on….

I think both of those controllers have their advantages and drawbacks and serve different needs.

The organ doesn’t sound different of course

Dear Tim, I apologise for the misunderstanding. I modified my latest post by removing the comment about the advertisement. Now I understand that, in fact, we just have different needs. For me it's only important to have a functional organ, which sounds and looks as close as possible to a pipe organ. Or even better.  Best regards, Andrei

TimB3 wrote:

Hello friends

I have come around an interesting possibility to gain full control over all parameters available in organteq. My solution is the MP1 controller, which is a multi touchscreen together with 32 encoders that can  be customized as per your wishes.

https://mpmidi.com/

I attach some photos in the link and will post as well a video in the next days.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B1mJOFSVFGYXmFt

For any questions kindly let me know.

This looks like an advertisement for the very sophisticated and expensive 780€ MP controller.
In fact "all parameters available in Organteq"  can already be  easily and fully  controlled on a 16'' (or slightly larger) touch screen, which is already available in most Organteq configurations. 
An additional midi controller is useful to an organist who wants to quickly change the stop configuration when playing. But such a midi controller should be very simple. 
One only needs several buttons or pads for quickly  changing/selecting the stop configuration.
This additional midi controller should be positioned as close as possible to the lowest manual. 
One can choose to buy an inexpensive commercial midi controller, for instance the M-VAVE SMC-PAD Pocket Pad https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005008344350321.html, or to manufacture oneself  such a controller, as I did myself (using components which cost less than 40€).   
As explained in my post,  the second choice offers many advantages, because one will have a device which is perfectly adapted to the Organteq interface and to the shape/dimensions of the console.

Andrei

Your work is absolutely great and you’ve built a unique and specialized controller for organteq - for a real bargain.

My post was not intended to sound commercial and I am not attached to the manufacturer in any way.

The software behind allows as well to make use of any vst/au plugins, fx, mixing, eq

Any parameter of any DAW is just at your hands. Zero programming.

I do play various instruments and switch between them. I go from organteq to pianoteq and so on….

I think both of those controllers have their advantages and drawbacks and serve different needs.

The organ doesn’t sound different of course

Hello friends

I have come around an interesting possibility to gain full control over all parameters available in organteq. My solution is the MP1 controller, which is a multi touchscreen together with 32 encoders that can  be customized as per your wishes.

https://mpmidi.com/

I attach some photos in the link and will post as well a video in the next days.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B1mJOFSVFGYXmFt

For any questions kindly let me know.

Thank you, Tim, for the post. For building a functional digital organ with Organteq: Organteq  can already be  easily and fully  controlled on a 16'' (or slightly larger) touch screen, which is already available in most Organteq configurations. 
An additional midi controller is useful to an organist who wants to quickly change the stop configuration when playing. But such a midi controller should be very simple. 
One only needs several buttons or pads for quickly  changing/selecting the stop configuration.
This additional midi controller should be positioned as close as possible to the lowest manual. 
One can choose to either buy an inexpensive commercial midi controller, for instance the M-VAVE SMC-PAD Pocket Pad https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005008344350321.html, or to manufacture oneself  such a controller, as I did myself (using components which cost less than 40€).   
As explained in my post,  the second choice offers many advantages, because one will have a device which is perfectly adapted to the Organteq interface and to the shape/dimensions of the console.

I have come around an interesting possibility to gain full control over all parameters available in organteq. My solution is the MP1 controller, which is a multi touchscreen together with 32 encoders that can  be customized as per your wishes.

https://mpmidi.com/

I attach some photos in the link and will post as well a video in the next days.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B1mJOFSVFGYXmFt

For any questions kindly let me know.

I have constructed a USB/MIDI controller for Organteq ...

I will be of course happy to help anybody who tries to build something similar. Here is a photo with the "brain" of the controller, an Arduino Pro Micro PCB (with the two PIN PCB connectors already soldered):

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/fr-f...00F657BF2A

It costs about 8€ on Amazon.

Andrei