if you wanna hear something weird, try the Bösendorfer impulse response in Altiverb

I read about this and always felt curious! Would you mind sharing a sound sample of this? (+dry for comparison)

So after reading Lemuel's post (https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=12870), where he recommended a free reverb plugin: https://www.wavealchemy.co.uk/product/magic7/

I have found that it completely transformed the Pianoteq sounds. It brings so much more presence in every preset, it's like I just had a Pianoteq 10 version upgrade!

I don't mean this as a slight to Pianoteq, but it just show how important a good reverb is in the overall piano sound. Perhaps Modartt can include this in the real version 10. It really is night and day difference. I just can't stop playing all my presets with a big smile on my face. Try it and see!

I just want to thank Lemuel for his advice. I used to have all the Briscati IR reverb files years ago. Forgot all about them. Haven't used external reverb with Pianoteq for many years now.

However, yesterday evening I downloaded the free Briscati reverb plugin from Magic7 as advised by Lemuel. I spent quite some time with this and various Pianoteq models (including Lemuel's L7 Natural.fxp) until I found a sound I have been. Playing for some hours now.

And yes, it transforms Pianoteq into something even more special, if that were possible! The main thing I've found is that these reverbs tend to be quite long and they disguise variations from key to key which in turn means I am not distracted by key to key variations but can just concentrate on playing, which was my desire. I'm using the 'Music Room' Briscati reverb preset in conjunction with Steingraeber Recording 3 preset (one of my favourites). It sounds like a piano in a concert hall. I've found also that when I play in a virtual concert hall, I play better. I don't know why and can't explain it, but it makes me believe that concert grand pianos are 'made' to played in a concert hall!
I've never played in a physical concert hall. But now I don't need to experience what it must be like. It's really something.

Lemuel, I played your L7 Natural.fxp with various Briscati reverb presets. These longer reverbs (especially the concert halls, music room and other piano related spaces) are such that they make the 'ringing' sound near the top octave of the piano register appear much less pronounced. One particular reverb I tried (I forget which one) cause the ringing sound to be complete absorbed. I guess it's to so with the reverb frequency? I know nothing of the technicalities.

Concerning your L7 Natural .fxp file, I found the overall sound of the Steinway to be brighter. Haven't yet listened to the demo with my IEMs (apologies), but will do that now and back to you Lemuel.

P.s. I'm using PTQ 9.1

Warmest regards to you all and a very, very happy Christmas,

Chris

The built in options of pianoteq are good but don't need to measure up to dedicated plugins, some of which are more expensive than a full pianoteq license!

Personally, MTurboReverb won me over.

Btw, pro trick: loading an Impulse Response from a free convolution reverb like MConvolutionEZ into pianoteq gives you an effective standalone upgrade to your sound. Especially convolutions that focus on timbre (like "Wooden Box"), can add an additional level of depth to the piano sound

I have found that it completely transformed the Pianoteq sounds. It brings so much more presence in every preset, it's like I just had a Pianoteq 10 version upgrade!

I don't mean this as a slight to Pianoteq, but it just show how important a good reverb is in the overall piano sound. Perhaps Modartt can include this in the real version 10. It really is night and day difference. I just can't stop playing all my presets with a big smile on my face. Try it and see!