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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It seems obvious that a lot of time went into developing the new K1 piano now released as part of Pianoteq, and it&#039;s an interesting instrument, very different from the C3 and M3. For me it will take a little getting used to, because &#039;out of the box&#039; it doesn&#039;t blow my mind the way the C3 and M3 did from day one. Then again, maybe the K1 wasn&#039;t meant to do that, but just to give us another useful tonal choice. Development seems to be an ongoing thing at Modartt, and that&#039;s great for us users.</p><p>I&#039;m still hoping that at some point the Electric Pianos will see some further development also, to include a good chorus effect. I believe we&#039;d have a pretty complete standalone piano solution at that time. Running Pianoteq standalone, on a laptop, with a good controller keyboard, would be all a gigging piano player would need.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-30T17:55:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the reasons we reign ourselves in (somewhat) with our more extravagant ideas (that Modarrt will end up sifting through), is because we&#039;d hate to see anything compromise or sidetrack the vision the company seems to have- of creating the best possible acoustic piano software instrument. We&#039;re all looking forward to what the future will hold in that respect. </p><p>That having been said, chorus for the EP&#039;s seems like such a SMALL thing to ask for....</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-22T19:45:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>feline1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>lol guys guys, <br />what we need is an upright piano and a Hohner Pianet, <br />you can get all this outboard FX stuff for free elsewhere.</p></blockquote></div><p>Oh, my, why didn&#039;t we think of that already?&nbsp; All of our problems would solved!!!</p><p>(Crashing back to reality.&nbsp; %^)</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>skip wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It&#039;d be cool if effects like chorus, phasing, and flanging could have seperate rates &amp; depths for different regions of the keyboard. For example, for bass notes a slow, deep rate sounds good, but for high notes a faster, shallower setting sounds more appropriate, typically.</p></blockquote></div><p>Oh, goodness -- another great idea!!!</p><p>We&#039;re going to keep MODARTT quite busy...&nbsp; If they&#039;ll let us!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dhalfen]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-22T18:07:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Michael H wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think without having a chorus option, the EP&#039;s are better off with NO effects, other than reverb. Bummer. (I&#039;m definitely showing my age here). <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p></blockquote></div><p>Yes you are.&nbsp; (Ouch!&nbsp; Oh, my right hand just smacked my left wrist for that.&nbsp; ;^)</p><p>And...&nbsp; er, I emphasize what Mario&#039;s said (about the &quot;effects box&quot; and redesigned/resizable interface).&nbsp; Onward to Pianoteq 4??? </p><p>(Coming to a computer near you in 2011?)</p><p>Pandora&#039;s Box it is!!!</p><p>(In the meantime:&nbsp; let&#039;s start a chorus for the &quot;Chorus.&quot;&nbsp; %^)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dhalfen]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-22T18:04:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>EvilDragon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think that Pianoteq could benefit from being an all-in-one pianos+Epianos+vintage pianos+effects product</p></blockquote></div><p>I think that&#039;s a cool idea too, EvilDragon. But like you said, anything that elaborate would probably need a fair amount of redesigning.</p><p>Personally, I&#039;d be pretty happy with just chorus, which I think the EP&#039;s really could use and should have. For that alone, a minor tweak to the GUI could probably do it (say exchanging the wah-wah control for a chorus control on the Wurly and Rhodes add-on). </p><p>I used Pianoteq last night on a gig for the first time, and overall the acoustic pianos sounded GREAT (just needing a little tweaking)! The EP&#039;s without chorus (I tried substituting a small amount of wah or tremolo) didn&#039;t cut it. I think without having a chorus option, the EP&#039;s are better off with NO effects, other than reverb. Bummer. (I&#039;m definitely showing my age here). <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-22T14:49:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#039;re talking sense there, EvilDragon!</p><p>I often wish I could drag the GUI larger rather than have it stuck in that little box ... with most programs and websites, in fact!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[feline1]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-22T10:46:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think that Pianoteq could benefit from being an all-in-one pianos+Epianos+vintage pianos+effects product, with effects suite of its own (hint - selling your effects as a separate VST with increased amount of control and parameters at a bargain price of, say, 19 or 29€ could get you an extra dime <i class="far fa-smile-wink smiley"></i>)</p><p>But I think that for such an elaborate effects section, Pianoteq really needs to re-think its current GUI. That&#039;s why I think, if Modartt intends to put some new effects on board, they should wait for v4, which should have:</p><p>1. redesigned interface<br />2. freely resizeable interface</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[EvilDragon]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-22T09:54:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>lol guys guys, <br />what we need is an upright piano and a Hohner Pianet, <br />you can get all this outboard FX stuff for free elsewhere.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-03-22T09:48:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;d be cool if effects like chorus, phasing, and flanging could have seperate rates &amp; depths for different regions of the keyboard. For example, for bass notes a slow, deep rate sounds good, but for high notes a faster, shallower setting sounds more appropriate, typically. </p><p>Greg.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[skip]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-22T08:20:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>1+ for a chorus that can also be applied to the acoustic pianos.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jake Johnson]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-22T01:38:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Michael H wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>SOOL... good one dhalfen! I hadn&#039;t seen that one before..</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m full of &#039;em.&nbsp; (NOT literally.&nbsp; At least on average.&nbsp; ;^)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dhalfen]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-21T20:30:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>SOOL... good one dhalfen! I hadn&#039;t seen that one before..</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-21T17:32:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Michael H wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>But the lack of a chorus effect takes some of the pleasure out of what is otherwise a pretty elegant total solution to a gigging piano player&#039;s needs.</p></blockquote></div><p>I would have to say that the &quot;chorus&quot; (well, tine-detuning) feature already found in the electric-piano add-ons probably &quot;distracted&quot; folks from the fact that a _true_ chorus effect wasn&#039;t put in place.&nbsp; Of course, the original instruments required you to use external pedal effect for chorus, phaser, overdrive, etc. -- but these pretty much became part of the standard gigging setup.&nbsp; </p><p>So, even if the Rhodes and Wurlies themselves didn&#039;t feature these effects onboard, the &quot;legacy&quot; of their usage with these electric pianos practically demands some sort of implementation.&nbsp; (Just like the wah-wah with the Clavinet.)&nbsp; Authentic performance tradition trumps authentic instrument tradition in this case!</p><p>(Goodness, in 80 years, we&#039;ll probably have folks arguing about the &quot;authenticity&quot; of using such effects -- just like HIP classical folks argue about the use of vibrato now.&nbsp; Of course, they&#039;ll have plenty of reference recordings from our time in the future, whereas we&#039;re a little SOOL for audiophile recordings from the 1800s.&nbsp; ;^)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dhalfen]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-21T16:03:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the replies guys. And right you are dhalfen about the wah-wah opening a Pandora&#039;s Box <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p><p>Chorus is a standard effect that&#039;s usually found in electric piano software, and wah-wah isn&#039;t. We&#039;re used to hearing a Clavinet with wah-wah, but that&#039;s about it. How often do we use, or hear, Clavinet as opposed to Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer- not often. Perhaps if Modartt would exchange the wah-wah for a chorus effect in the EP&#039;s other than the Clav??</p><p>Although I&#039;ve got Lounge Lizard Session and Elektrik Piano, I&#039;m using Pianoteq&#039;s EP&#039;s because the add-on makes PTQ an all-in-one piano application. But the lack of a chorus effect takes some of the pleasure out of what is otherwise a pretty elegant total solution to a gigging piano player&#039;s needs.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Michael H]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-21T14:17:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Electric Piano feature request: Stereo Chorus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>+1 -- once you&#039;ve added the wah-wah, you&#039;ve opened Pandora&#039;s Box.&nbsp; %^)</p><p>Seriously, though, this would be a nice feature and would certainly improve the &quot;standalone&quot; experience.</p><p>Obviously, if you&#039;re using Pianoteq in a host, then your options are already excellent for external effects plug-ins of this nature.&nbsp; (I could name a ridiculous number, all good to great -- no shortage of hits to your wallet!)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dhalfen]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-03-21T05:12:46Z</updated>
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