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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>BigSteve wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I prefer version 8 for electric pianos.&nbsp; The newest version has a bit too much grit in the sound that can’t be edited out.&nbsp; &nbsp;Having said that I still want to say how much I enjoy pianoteq. Just amazing</p></blockquote></div><p>Dialing back the hammer tine noise does work, though.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I prefer version 8 for electric pianos.&nbsp; The newest version has a bit too much grit in the sound that can’t be edited out.&nbsp; &nbsp;Having said that I still want to say how much I enjoy pianoteq. Just amazing</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I tried messing around with it a little bit last night. What seemed to happen for me was: if you raise the level of the hammer &lt;Tine noise&gt; on the Mark I you get a better bell tone for the attack, whereas if you raise it on the Mark II it sounds more like a ring modulator. I wouldn&#039;t mind getting more bell tone on the attack of the Mark II&#039;s sound. The EQ in the effects section will get that for you pretty well, but I&#039;m already using the 3 effects for tremolo, delay and compressor. The separate equalizer section is more subtle but by using a modified Whistle preset and jacking it all the way up between around 3,500-8,000hz it does a pretty good job. What I&#039;d love to see on a future update would be either 4 effects slots or the ability to have a delay effect in the reverb section.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-11-06T16:17:24Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>rods, I wonder, as you have 8 stereo buses in Pianoteq 9, can&#039;t you manage to feed a 7.1.4 channel output? (hopefully not a silly question)</p></blockquote></div><p>Not a silly question at all, Philippe! Actually, I (and others) are having problems doing just that. Since I don&#039;t want to take over this thread with an unrelated issue, please meet me here:</p><p><a href="https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=12677">https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=12677</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-11-03T19:54:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>rods wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I *would* consider upgrading if Modartt adds the ability to assign the 8 microphones to a 7.1.4 channel layout, but that&#039;s another topic altogether.</p></blockquote></div><p>rods, I wonder, as you have 8 stereo buses in Pianoteq 9, can&#039;t you manage to feed a 7.1.4 channel output? (hopefully not a silly question)</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-11-03T17:11:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>The added distortion is present only on a few presets voiced toward that type of sound, it&#039;s not for the entire model, so there is no need to upgrade to standard or even pro just to change these few MKII choices.</p></blockquote></div><p>But they are presets that I happen to like and use. I will continue to use PT 8 for those, and I&#039;m grateful for Modartt&#039;s generous free upgrade because I can choose from either version 8 or 9.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-11-01T16:44:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I find nothing wrong with Mk ll Spark . Sounds so good to me. Although I use normally other presets. To discuss sound is of course always about taste. And the fantastic thing Is, that we can change so much in the sound with Pianoteq. Since 2013 every updated has made the sound better. I&#039;m satisfied. I can hear a little of a &quot;hot glowing particle struck from a larger mass&quot;. As it has to be in this preset.<br />This was a fast short test playing. </p><p><a href="https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?file=MK%20ll%20Spark.mp3">https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...0Spark.mp3</a></p><p>All the best, everyone</p><p>Stig</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-11-01T15:53:15Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>rods wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;ve owned two Stage 73 Mark 1s and a Suitcase 88 Mk2, as well as played several other Rhodes as a gigging musician for 20+ years. I&#039;ve also worked as a recording engineer for an equal amount of time. </p><p>I purchased the PT 8 Stage version earlier this year, because IMO it has the best &quot;ideal&quot; basic Rhodes sound. Mind you, it&#039;s quite difficult to achieve that perfectly balanced sound in the real world, so in that sense you could say that the PT 8 sound is &quot;unrealistic&quot;. However, my goal in the recording studio is to use the best sounding instrument possible, not an instrument that sounds more &quot;realistic&quot; because it comes closest to the average Rhodes electronics when overdriven. In that sense, the PT 9 Mk2 is a step backwards because the added distortion is simply over the top based on my experience. And I don&#039;t plan to spend extra $ to upgrade to the standard version just to have the ability to dial that distortion back a bit.</p><p>With that being said, I&#039;m happy to report that both PT 8 and PT 9 versions can run simultaneously under the same license.</p><p>I *would* consider upgrading if Modartt adds the ability to assign the 8 microphones to a 7.1.4 channel layout, but that&#039;s another topic altogether.</p></blockquote></div><p>The added distortion is present only on a few presets voiced toward that type of sound, it&#039;s not for the entire model, so there is no need to upgrade to standard or even pro just to change these few MKII choices.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-11-01T11:51:24Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve owned two Stage 73 Mark 1s and a Suitcase 88 Mk2, as well as played several other Rhodes as a gigging musician for 20+ years. I&#039;ve also worked as a recording engineer for an equal amount of time. </p><p>I purchased the PT 8 Stage version earlier this year, because IMO it has the best &quot;ideal&quot; basic Rhodes sound. Mind you, it&#039;s quite difficult to achieve that perfectly balanced sound in the real world, so in that sense you could say that the PT 8 sound is &quot;unrealistic&quot;. However, my goal in the recording studio is to use the best sounding instrument possible, not an instrument that sounds more &quot;realistic&quot; because it comes closest to the average Rhodes electronics when overdriven. In that sense, the PT 9 Mk2 is a step backwards because the added distortion is simply over the top based on my experience. And I don&#039;t plan to spend extra $ to upgrade to the standard version just to have the ability to dial that distortion back a bit.</p><p>With that being said, I&#039;m happy to report that both PT 8 and PT 9 versions can run simultaneously under the same license.</p><p>I *would* consider upgrading if Modartt adds the ability to assign the 8 microphones to a 7.1.4 channel layout, but that&#039;s another topic altogether.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-11-01T07:03:10Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Chopin87 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>aWc wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just want to chime in about some of the negative opinions on the&nbsp; updated electric pianos:</p><p>Are you kidding&#039; me? Seriously, this new version is, IMHO, by far the best. I have been very critical in the past about the E piano models, but Oh your God, this one really nails it! Finally it has this life, this expressivity and funkiness that had been really lacking up to v9. Recent releases like AAS&#039;s Lounge Lizard 5 had really broaden the gap and made the electrics in v8 sound out of it. But now, Modartt did it. So much fun to play, bravo!</p></blockquote></div><p>I am probably the only one or at least one of the few who was unimpressed by LL5: I expected a bigger leap from version 4 but besides the much needed graphic changes, I don&#039;t find the improved engine to be such a massive improvement over the previous version to leave me flabbergasted. However the more competition the better, so it&#039;s easier for anybody to find something that suits their taste.</p></blockquote></div><p> I agree, I have tested that LL5 yesterday and, to me, it&#039;s not even close to what Pianoteq is...I love the Reeds EP on Pianoteq!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-11-01T02:12:57Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>aWc wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just want to chime in about some of the negative opinions on the&nbsp; updated electric pianos:</p><p>Are you kidding&#039; me? Seriously, this new version is, IMHO, by far the best. I have been very critical in the past about the E piano models, but Oh your God, this one really nails it! Finally it has this life, this expressivity and funkiness that had been really lacking up to v9. Recent releases like AAS&#039;s Lounge Lizard 5 had really broaden the gap and made the electrics in v8 sound out of it. But now, Modartt did it. So much fun to play, bravo!</p></blockquote></div><p>I am probably the only one or at least one of the few who was unimpressed by LL5: I expected a bigger leap from version 4 but besides the much needed graphic changes, I don&#039;t find the improved engine to be such a massive improvement over the previous version to leave me flabbergasted. However the more competition the better, so it&#039;s easier for anybody to find something that suits their taste.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-30T10:04:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just want to chime in about some of the negative opinions on the&nbsp; updated electric pianos:</p><p>Are you kidding&#039; me? Seriously, this new version is, IMHO, by far the best. I have been very critical in the past about the E piano models, but Oh your God, this one really nails it! Finally it has this life, this expressivity and funkiness that had been really lacking up to v9. Recent releases like AAS&#039;s Lounge Lizard 5 had really broaden the gap and made the electrics in v8 sound out of it. But now, Modartt did it. So much fun to play, bravo!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-30T01:02:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Follow up on my post above…</p><p>Installed P9 last night. Had some time with it and it appears my questions have been answered. While the MK2 Tines are now v9, the MK1 Tines are still v8, and that was my main concern. Happy with that. Also the W2 Reeds are v9, while W1 is unchanged.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-28T13:01:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have a similar concern on the discussion here. I’ve been using the IOS v8 demo for a number of weeks while trying to decide on my two instrument choices for my v8 Stage purchase. Finally deciding on the Bechstein to go with the Electrics-Rhodes/Wurlies that I immediately knew I wanted. </p><p>Last week I noticed the announcement of v9, and the delay in the IOS release, so I decided to wait for the IOS release before making the purchase. </p><p>Now reading this thread,(and another about the Steinberg revoicing) I’m not sure what I should do. I love the Electrics in v8 and don’t <br />want to loose them when upgraded to v9 when the IOS version becomes available. It appears the only way to edit out the new voice parameters are only available in Pianoteq STANDARD, which I can’t afford to upgrade to at this point. </p><p>Is it possible the v8 Electrics will available for download separately as the Steinberg currently is?<br />I also read somewhere here that having one license covering both v8 and 9 is possible. What are my options to solve this? Thanks</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-27T00:02:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sonata wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thank you for clarifying that. However, I would have found it more useful if the “Hammer Tine Noise” parameter had a default value of 0 dB and the sound of the old presets sounded the same as before. When I load an old project in Cubase and remix it now, the sound is different when it accesses a Rhodes preset, which now sounds different. To demonstrate the new “Hammer Tine Noise” parameter, it would have been better to offer a few additional presets.</p><p>It may be that a value of 5 dB or 10 dB for the “Hammer Tine Noise” parameter actually makes the sound closer to the original instrument, but nevertheless, the comments here show that the majority prefer the sound of Pianoteq 8. That&#039;s actually a great compliment to modartt, because sometimes your sound is better than the original, so to speak. So I would appreciate an update where the “Hammer Tine Noise” parameter is reset (back) to 0 dB for the old presets. :-)</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes: This. I agree with sonata&#039;s assessment and recommendation</p><p>What shook me was that my carefully tweaked Rhodes user presets sounded awful in V9. And PT has been my go-to for everything Piano<br />since V7.</p><p>That said: Thank you PT for making such a great product</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-25T15:26:32Z</updated>
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