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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A tip to make Pianoteq sound better]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Stephen_Doonan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>When using MIDI keyboards that transmit a Note-Off value, this setting in Pianoteq works fine (as does the default Note-Off curve: 0=127, 127=127)--</p><p><a href="https://i.imgur.com/aU2WIOu.png">https://i.imgur.com/aU2WIOu.png</a></p><p>--</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks using these note velocity settings 25-64 makes a big difference. <br />Combined with piano condition set to 0.2 and up the impedance a bit (1.1-1.2) and sympathetic resonance (1-1.5), every piano I tried sounds so good now.</p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A tip to make Pianoteq sound better]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>daniel_r328 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>FWIW my guess is that the intended &quot;default&quot; duration is what you hear at a 127 velocity... because why else would they make that the default value?</p></blockquote></div><p>I would agree. Surely if there were some fixed value that better reflected reality, Pianoteq would default to that...?</p><p>My keyboard transmits variable note-off velocity but my DAW does not record it and always transmits 64. As a result, I haven&#039;t experimented a lot, but I can&#039;t imagine there&#039;s a massive difference between 64 and 62. If there were, it would be difficult for a mere mortal performer like me to control the effect.</p><p>EDIT: After experimenting a bit, I have to revise my response. I still think there&#039;s very little difference between a fixed 64 and a fixed 62, but a fixed 127 is definitely unpleasant. I long ago changed the Note Off curve to pass the full range of 0-127 so Pianoteq gets the full range when I play it standalone, but in my DAW it always gets 64. I think I did that so soon after getting it that I never really experienced the fixed 127 value. So I tried it, and... yuck! It produces a very unpleasantly abrupt damping for anything other than very staccato notes.</p><p>So now I have to agree with the OP, if you don&#039;t have a keyboard that transmits variable Note Off velocity and have the curve set to pass the full range, by all means set the fixed value to something more moderate.</p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A tip to make Pianoteq sound better]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>When using MIDI keyboards that transmit a Note-Off value, this setting in Pianoteq works fine (as does the default Note-Off curve: 0=127, 127=127)--</p><p><a href="https://i.imgur.com/aU2WIOu.png">https://i.imgur.com/aU2WIOu.png</a></p><p>--</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I want to try, but I can&#039;t find the set area</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-08-26T11:26:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A tip to make Pianoteq sound better]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Heya, sorry I don&#039;t quite follow - do you mean change the incoming velocity value, or pianoteq&#039;s response curve value (ie. the horizontal or vertical value on the velocity curve)?</p><p>For me the default note-off pianoteq value is a flat 127 for each incoming midi velocity value, not 57 - and my incoming velocity is 64 (not that it matters because all values are getting mapped back to 127). If I change the flat level to 62, I find that the key and damper noises are sounding slightly later and the damping duration is increased. </p><p>I&#039;m not sure that the later noise components are an improvement because they no longer match the key/damper returns timings of my (acoustic grand) action - but I guess that depends on what I&#039;m playing. The change in damping duration I can appreciate as a change of the sound design, but why not just change the damping duration slider directly?</p><p>FWIW my guess is that the intended &quot;default&quot; duration is what you hear at a 127 velocity... because why else would they make that the default value?</p><p>Or maybe I completely misunderstand the tweak so please enlighten me <i class="far fa-smile smiley"></i></p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I sent a access request to hear the difference.</p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[A tip to make Pianoteq sound better]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Set all of the &quot;note off velocities&quot; in your midi to 62 - the default pianoteq outputs (when the midi value is 0) is 57. The only note-off velocities values which are real to how a real piano sounds are 61 and 62.</p><p>This gives pianoteq a slightly more realistic sound. Its more solid and gives it more of a &quot;bounce&quot; to the ends of notes like a real piano.</p><p><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ppfph0hU0OJrF-wJzM88U07pFK3zOnR4/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ppfph0...zOnR4/view</a><br />Note Off Velocity = 57 (0 in the midi)</p><p><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vpwKOjavLvaj9WhqfxvxyHck16GeiJ7d/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vpwKOj...sp=sharing</a><br />Note Off Velocity = 62</p>]]></content>
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