Did someone try this one ? .........................................I would have chosen the MP11 SE if there wasn't the famous sticky keys issue. ...........................

I have the MP11 SE since 2 years and I also never had problems with the keys or anything else. I love to play with it the pianos of my Pianoteq 9 Studio Bundle, and playing my Organteq its programmable 4 zones are very helpfull to access the four manuals separately or together.

Hello,

Did someone try this one ? .........................................I would have chosen the MP11 SE if there wasn't the famous sticky keys issue. ...........................

First I've heard of "the famous sticky keys issue", had my MP11SE since 2018 and with daily use have never had a problem. Great keyboard so long as you don't need to move it around often.

I think it's over for Studiologic. This isn't going to have a happy ending for me, I'm quite certain of that. About the only silver lining was that all my work was under warranty.

In short, I'm looking elsewhere, and open to suggestions about something that might hold up.

eheilner wrote:

Pete the Greek wrote:

RE latency: did you try adjusting (reducing) the buffer size in Pianoteq? Smaller buffer = lower latency (but higher risk of artifact).

I was recently testing Pianoteq on a current iPad mini and a Yamaha CP88 (using USB for midi and audio). At a buffer of 64 my latency was reported to be 1.5 milliseconds, and there were no obvious audio artifacts (crackles etc) that indicated the need for a larger buffer. Even at this very low latency I COULD detect it when I played both Pianoteq and the internal sound engine simultaneously (each note had two attacks).  From what I have read a human "shouldn't" be able to perceive 1.5 msec of latency. Maybe the reportedly latency doesn't include some other factors. My hearing is not spectacular.

With just Pianoteq I did not perceive this 1.5 msec of latency as noticeable. Others might.

I'm currently using a CP-88 on my gigs and PianoTeq in the studio, but am considering using PianoTeq on my iPad for gigs as well.   How do you get the audio output to feed to your speakers?   Does the audio out still come from the audio outs on the CP-88?   Thanks!

The iPad audio is routed to the output jacks on the CP88. I don't recall if I had to change any settings to make that happen (because if I did, it would have been long ago!).

If it doesn't work for you please reply and I will check the settings.

Thanks, that worked!   I had to scrounge around to get the right connectors (I borrowed that squarish USB-B from an old printer ) and everything has to be connected before turning on, but after a few glitches everything worked.

Pete the Greek wrote:

Pianistically wrote:

Typically audio interface companies  write their own custom ASIO drivers to ensure their hardware works smoothly on Windows and bypass Windows drivers. Studiologic relies Class Compliance  use the generic Windows driver which is  quite slow or a third-party "wrapper" like ASIO4ALL. On Mac there is no issues because the native Core Audio driver on Mac OS which is designed from day one for professional audio.

Regarding bluetooth Audio, the SL 88 MK2 GT doesn't support it , so it cannot be the cause of the issue.

Hope it helps .

RE latency: did you try adjusting (reducing) the buffer size in Pianoteq? Smaller buffer = lower latency (but higher risk of artifact).

I was recently testing Pianoteq on a current iPad mini and a Yamaha CP88 (using USB for midi and audio). At a buffer of 64 my latency was reported to be 1.5 milliseconds, and there were no obvious audio artifacts (crackles etc) that indicated the need for a larger buffer. Even at this very low latency I COULD detect it when I played both Pianoteq and the internal sound engine simultaneously (each note had two attacks).  From what I have read a human "shouldn't" be able to perceive 1.5 msec of latency. Maybe the reportedly latency doesn't include some other factors. My hearing is not spectacular.

With just Pianoteq I did not perceive this 1.5 msec of latency as noticeable. Others might.

I'm currently using a CP-88 on my gigs and PianoTeq in the studio, but am considering using PianoTeq on my iPad for gigs as well.   How do you get the audio output to feed to your speakers?   Does the audio out still come from the audio outs on the CP-88?   Thanks!

The iPad audio is routed to the output jacks on the CP88. I don't recall if I had to change any settings to make that happen (because if I did, it would have been long ago!).

If it doesn't work for you please reply and I will check the settings.

Pianistically wrote:

Onaip wrote:

Hello!

Quick question, if you don’t mind.

I used to own a Yamaha P-45 and I found the keys too short. When I played with my left hand toward the upper part of the keys, because the keys were so short, I had trouble pressing the notes properly.

Are the keys on the Studiologic GT MK2 longer?

Are you still happy with your purchase?

And just a random comment, but with Bluetooth audio there’s always some latency, so that might be a possible explanation for people experiencing delay. Of course, the issue could come from something else, but it’s a good first thing to check.

Thanks in advance!

Typically audio interface companies  write their own custom ASIO drivers to ensure their hardware works smoothly on Windows and bypass Windows drivers. Studiologic relies Class Compliance  use the generic Windows driver which is  quite slow or a third-party "wrapper" like ASIO4ALL. On Mac there is no issues because the native Core Audio driver on Mac OS which is designed from day one for professional audio.

Regarding bluetooth Audio, the SL 88 MK2 GT doesn't support it , so it cannot be the cause of the issue.

Hope it helps .

RE latency: did you try adjusting (reducing) the buffer size in Pianoteq? Smaller buffer = lower latency (but higher risk of artifact).

I was recently testing Pianoteq on a current iPad mini and a Yamaha CP88 (using USB for midi and audio). At a buffer of 64 my latency was reported to be 1.5 milliseconds, and there were no obvious audio artifacts (crackles etc) that indicated the need for a larger buffer. Even at this very low latency I COULD detect it when I played both Pianoteq and the internal sound engine simultaneously (each note had two attacks).  From what I have read a human "shouldn't" be able to perceive 1.5 msec of latency. Maybe the reportedly latency doesn't include some other factors. My hearing is not spectacular.

With just Pianoteq I did not perceive this 1.5 msec of latency as noticeable. Others might.

I'm currently using a CP-88 on my gigs and PianoTeq in the studio, but am considering using PianoTeq on my iPad for gigs as well.   How do you get the audio output to feed to your speakers?   Does the audio out still come from the audio outs on the CP-88?   Thanks!

Pianistically wrote:

Onaip wrote:

Hello!

Quick question, if you don’t mind.

I used to own a Yamaha P-45 and I found the keys too short. When I played with my left hand toward the upper part of the keys, because the keys were so short, I had trouble pressing the notes properly.

Are the keys on the Studiologic GT MK2 longer?

Are you still happy with your purchase?

And just a random comment, but with Bluetooth audio there’s always some latency, so that might be a possible explanation for people experiencing delay. Of course, the issue could come from something else, but it’s a good first thing to check.

Thanks in advance!

Typically audio interface companies  write their own custom ASIO drivers to ensure their hardware works smoothly on Windows and bypass Windows drivers. Studiologic relies Class Compliance  use the generic Windows driver which is  quite slow or a third-party "wrapper" like ASIO4ALL. On Mac there is no issues because the native Core Audio driver on Mac OS which is designed from day one for professional audio.

Regarding bluetooth Audio, the SL 88 MK2 GT doesn't support it , so it cannot be the cause of the issue.

Hope it helps .

RE latency: did you try adjusting (reducing) the buffer size in Pianoteq? Smaller buffer = lower latency (but higher risk of artifact).

I was recently testing Pianoteq on a current iPad mini and a Yamaha CP88 (using USB for midi and audio). At a buffer of 64 my latency was reported to be 1.5 milliseconds, and there were no obvious audio artifacts (crackles etc) that indicated the need for a larger buffer. Even at this very low latency I COULD detect it when I played both Pianoteq and the internal sound engine simultaneously (each note had two attacks).  From what I have read a human "shouldn't" be able to perceive 1.5 msec of latency. Maybe the reportedly latency doesn't include some other factors. My hearing is not spectacular.

With just Pianoteq I did not perceive this 1.5 msec of latency as noticeable. Others might.

just fyi the 1.5 ms is not the RTL , just the audio latency . The real latency , specially of you use external speakers is much higher .

Onaip wrote:

Pianistically wrote:

it has no let off simulation and doesn’t have the Ivory top .

Hello!

Quick question, if you don’t mind.

I used to own a Yamaha P-45 and I found the keys too short. When I played with my left hand toward the upper part of the keys, because the keys were so short, I had trouble pressing the notes properly.

Are the keys on the Studiologic GT MK2 longer?

Are you still happy with your purchase?

And just a random comment, but with Bluetooth audio there’s always some latency, so that might be a possible explanation for people experiencing delay. Of course, the issue could come from something else, but it’s a good first thing to check.

Thanks in advance!

Typically audio interface companies  write their own custom ASIO drivers to ensure their hardware works smoothly on Windows and bypass Windows drivers. Studiologic relies Class Compliance  use the generic Windows driver which is  quite slow or a third-party "wrapper" like ASIO4ALL. On Mac there is no issues because the native Core Audio driver on Mac OS which is designed from day one for professional audio.

Regarding bluetooth Audio, the SL 88 MK2 GT doesn't support it , so it cannot be the cause of the issue.

Hope it helps .

RE latency: did you try adjusting (reducing) the buffer size in Pianoteq? Smaller buffer = lower latency (but higher risk of artifact).

I was recently testing Pianoteq on a current iPad mini and a Yamaha CP88 (using USB for midi and audio). At a buffer of 64 my latency was reported to be 1.5 milliseconds, and there were no obvious audio artifacts (crackles etc) that indicated the need for a larger buffer. Even at this very low latency I COULD detect it when I played both Pianoteq and the internal sound engine simultaneously (each note had two attacks).  From what I have read a human "shouldn't" be able to perceive 1.5 msec of latency. Maybe the reportedly latency doesn't include some other factors. My hearing is not spectacular.

With just Pianoteq I did not perceive this 1.5 msec of latency as noticeable. Others might.

Pianistically wrote:

groovy wrote:

I am interested in an GT MKII only if is free of an escapement simulation. But I could not find valid information from StudioLogic, just hearsay of influencers on the net. Eventually Ressen is 100 % sure ...

it has no let off simulation and doesn’t have the Ivory top .

Hello!

Quick question, if you don’t mind.

I used to own a Yamaha P-45 and I found the keys too short. When I played with my left hand toward the upper part of the keys, because the keys were so short, I had trouble pressing the notes properly.

Are the keys on the Studiologic GT MK2 longer?

Are you still happy with your purchase?

And just a random comment, but with Bluetooth audio there’s always some latency, so that might be a possible explanation for people experiencing delay. Of course, the issue could come from something else, but it’s a good first thing to check.

Thanks in advance!

Typically audio interface companies  write their own custom ASIO drivers to ensure their hardware works smoothly on Windows and bypass Windows drivers. Studiologic relies Class Compliance  use the generic Windows driver which is  quite slow or a third-party "wrapper" like ASIO4ALL. On Mac there is no issues because the native Core Audio driver on Mac OS which is designed from day one for professional audio.

Regarding bluetooth Audio, the SL 88 MK2 GT doesn't support it , so it cannot be the cause of the issue.

Hope it helps .

groovy wrote:

I am interested in an GT MKII only if is free of an escapement simulation. But I could not find valid information from StudioLogic, just hearsay of influencers on the net. Eventually Ressen is 100 % sure ...

it has no let off simulation and doesn’t have the Ivory top .

Hello!

Quick question, if you don’t mind.

I used to own a Yamaha P-45 and I found the keys too short. When I played with my left hand toward the upper part of the keys, because the keys were so short, I had trouble pressing the notes properly.

Are the keys on the Studiologic GT MK2 longer?

Are you still happy with your purchase?

And just a random comment, but with Bluetooth audio there’s always some latency, so that might be a possible explanation for people experiencing delay. Of course, the issue could come from something else, but it’s a good first thing to check.

Thanks in advance!

But the point is that also at a gig you want to have as less equipment as possible, so the SL was a dream setup. Just plugging in the iPad and you're good to go. Like their website says "professional grade audio interface" one would expect also to have a good setup for live gigs. But maybe it was just related to the quality, not to playability :-) And then...the Focusrite is still better in clarity and performance.

As fas as your suggestion concerns, just using it as a controller not as audio isn't that bad but that's not how it should be. Not in my case anyway.

I recently bought the SL 88 MKII GT. It has a very very nice keybed although a bit on the stiff side. For me personally I prefer be a bit lighter like a Nord Piano....although...having a price-difference of nearly 3000 euro.... I didn't get any escapement feel of the keybed. I find the keybed very precise; I hardly miss a key with this one while playing quick runs or doing strides.

Very very positive: just plug in an iPad with Pianoteq (running in AUM) and start playing. No extra devices and cables.

The only thing that I'm struggling with at the moment is the connection between key and sound. There's some latency involved and there is not much to tune with the onboard audiodevice which runs at max 48Khz. Sound-wise: it has a decent quality (more than enough for a live gig) but a Focusrite 4th gen for example is more clear.

Why not use the iPad as the audio interface? And the SL just for MIDI? Probably lower latency that way