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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Please help me making realistic (dry & crisp) piano sound]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You should try the built-in demos of the YC5 or U4 and download the free instrument packs (if you haven&#039;t already--the Pleyel, Erard, &amp; Bechstein specifically).</p><p>Those instruments will likely get you closer to the sound you want immediately and you can configure from there.&nbsp; While the B is a smaller scaling than the D, it isn&#039;t that close to what (by appearance) seems to be a ~70s 6&#039; Yamaha, which are among the most responsive pianos I&#039;ve played--great for something like Mendelssohn&#039;s music (though for my tastes they&#039;re terrible for just about anything else, I only use them when I&#039;m doing one that really, really needs their exact &quot;personality&quot;).&nbsp; They typically have minimal ringing time (horrible for Old-Russian-School pianists like myself whose pedal philosophy is &quot;set-and-forget-it&quot;), higher-than-average soundboard impedance, fast hammers, and faster repetitions than I usually find in most pianos (though that can sometimes be as much or more of a regulation consideration than an action-design one).</p><p>Yes, upgrading to Standard will be a dramatic improvement as far as configurability; however, it might not need to be your immediate first step.&nbsp; Also, much fo the example video sound is related to EQ (due to the microphone in question have profound axial character--as the bass notes are virtually inaudible while the mid treble is extremely present): giving it something of a &quot;radio&quot; EQ sound.&nbsp; You can also try Standard for free, with some notes turned off.&nbsp; Spend an hour or so experimenting in Standard and see if you&#039;re getting better results or not.&nbsp; I believe you&#039;d also get another instrument pack with the upgrade to Standard.&nbsp; You&#039;ll keep all of your settings and experiments if you do choose upgrade, which is a nice bonus--as it means the time wouldn&#039;t be wasted if you went that route.</p><p>Also, a word of caution: avoid conflating &quot;sound&quot; with &quot;experience&quot; as you describe wanting &quot;very crisp...sound with instant hammer responses&quot; as much of that likely has to do with your MIDI interface/keyboard and sound card latency settings/driver configuration, etc. and your personal playing technique when using your specific equipment than it does with the actual piano sound settings within PTQ.&nbsp; You can use MIDI scans of piano rolls as control subjects (when doing a high quality audio export) to help isolate if the sound issues are more related to PTQ itself or the rest of your equipment chain.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>8000000000won wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hello,</p><p>I&#039;m a Pianoteq 8 stage user with Steinway B and Petrof instruments.</p><p>I&#039;m striving to make realistic piano sound and need some help.<br />My ideal sound is very dry and crisp tone from player&#039;s perspective.<br />(I don&#039;t want rich sound of concert hall nor well-recorded sound.)</p><p>the link below is a perfect example of the sound I&#039;m looking for:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP37xHgpDHM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP37xHgpDHM</a></p><p>At the first passage(a series of CGCE notes) in this video,<br />I can hear a very crisp &quot;chop chop chop chop&quot; sound with instant hammer responses.<br />But in the Pianoteq, it&#039;s far more dull and &quot;ringing&quot; sound.</p><p>I tried some settings with a Standard trial version.<br />Adjusting &quot;Damping Duration&quot; to 0.70s is the best option by far for me, but it doesn&#039;t still sound realistic.</p><p>Please share some tips for this. I can upgrade to Standard or above if needed.<br />Thank you.</p></blockquote></div><p>(Un)fortunately they haven’t modeled a crappy iPhone microphone.&nbsp; </p><p>I would use the stereophonic or binaural output, so there is no mic modeling.&nbsp; Go to the EFFECTS and insert an EQ3 and use the “bass cut” preset.</p><p>Like you, I was a Stage user for years.&nbsp; Upgrading to Standard was 100% worth it.&nbsp; The ability to use virtual mics is a game-changer.&nbsp; In Standard, try a “Player” preset and change the mics to pair of omni microphones (which is what iPhone mics are) and apply the same EQ cut.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p><p>I&#039;m a Pianoteq 8 stage user with Steinway B and Petrof instruments.</p><p>I&#039;m striving to make realistic piano sound and need some help.<br />My ideal sound is very dry and crisp tone from player&#039;s perspective.<br />(I don&#039;t want rich sound of concert hall nor well-recorded sound.)</p><p>the link below is a perfect example of the sound I&#039;m looking for:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP37xHgpDHM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP37xHgpDHM</a></p><p>At the first passage(a series of CGCE notes) in this video,<br />I can hear a very crisp &quot;chop chop chop chop&quot; sound with instant hammer responses.<br />But in the Pianoteq, it&#039;s far more dull and &quot;ringing&quot; sound.</p><p>I tried some settings with a Standard trial version.<br />Adjusting &quot;Damping Duration&quot; to 0.70s is the best option by far for me, but it doesn&#039;t still sound realistic.</p><p>Please share some tips for this. I can upgrade to Standard or above if needed.<br />Thank you.</p>]]></content>
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