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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: If you had to pick one sampled VST to add woody depth to Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Good point about the Composer Cloud! NI also has this with their <a href="https://www.native-instruments.com/en/catalog/discover-360/">Discover 360 subscription</a>. Looks like the first 14 days are free, and that might be a helpful way to trial Noire (or Claire, or any of their other pianos) without a commitment.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[miiindbullets]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: If you had to pick one sampled VST to add woody depth to Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>In addition to miiind&#039;s great advice (and +1 for VSL).&nbsp; There&#039;s also EastWest who sometimes offer a free month of their Composer Cloud service, which has a few pianos as well.&nbsp; Though they don&#039;t continuously offer a free month of their service, but that&#039;s about it beyond what&#039;s already been mentioned that you can try free.</p><p>I remember that about 15 years ago, there was another cloud service that allowed you access to a virtual machine for something like 15 minutes that you could reserve to test a given library.&nbsp; I can&#039;t remember the name of the service and the likelihood that it&#039;s survived is tremendously unlikely, as such services can be absolutely fraught when it comes to ToS concerns.</p><p>You could also try local sound studios or even a nearby University, both for recommendations or even being able to freely or affordably try things out.</p><p>I know that most of the composers I know who want a woodier sound &quot;render&quot; out to an acoustic that&#039;s close-miked with a midi like a QRS or Disklavier system.</p><p>It&#039;s been a long time since I seriously shopped for a PTQ alternative, but I remember that Imperfect Samples had more &quot;woody&quot; vst options than most providers (but that&#039;s probably a decade-old opinion).</p><p>If I were in the market for more Piano VSTs, I&#039;d probably either go for VSL&#039;s Fazioli (please PTQ...please add a Fazioli!) or just save up to get a rebuilt golden era grand and add QRS to it--but I so don&#039;t have anywhere to go with an acoustic of any real size in my studio.&nbsp; Once you get to the point that a &quot;good&quot; controller/keyboard is $3-6K USD plus another $500-1K USD for a good library set, you may as well consider an acoustic for $6-10K USD, as those price points start being more about business investment and future value.&nbsp; Spitfire also has decent pianos from what I&#039;ve heard, but my experience outside of the PTQ market is too minimal to provide top-quality advice.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-01-08T21:03:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: If you had to pick one sampled VST to add woody depth to Pianoteq?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;ve got a lot of options. Is there a particular acoustic piano you favor for a particularly &quot;woody&quot; sound?</p><p>Vienna Symphonic Library has demos sometimes once or twice a year (often with a new piano release, which seems imminent), and they&#039;re known for good playable pianos and a sub-par resonator, so it makes a nice pair with Pianoteq&#039;s phenomenal resonator. Olivier has a few demonstrations of how those sound in combination, but you could also try for yourself during the next VSL demo period. They also have a 14-day return policy if you don&#039;t want to wait, and you can resell your license down the road.</p><p>Another very playable piano is the Modern D, it&#039;s a new (not fully broken-in) Steinway, but its playability is the best I&#039;ve seen in a sample library and it sounds very good. There is no demo available with the Modern D, though, and I don&#039;t believe you can resell the license.</p><p>Native Instruments Noire is probably the warmest/woodiest piano I have. The standard library isn&#039;t as playable as the aforementioned libraries (staccatos aren&#039;t quite right), but it has good dynamic range and it&#039;s still one of my favorite timbres. The felted library is quite nice (it comes with both). You can get it &quot;used&quot; and likely resell it for a similar price if you don&#039;t like it.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-01-08T17:23:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I want to buy a sampled VST to use to beef up the pianoteq sound. Ideally something that works standalone or super easily with mac garageband?</p><p>Am I right in thinking basically none of them have demos? You just have to buy based on audio tracks?</p><p>If you had to buy one, which would it be? I just want something to make deep chords sound a but fuller and woody</p>]]></content>
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